What if JESUS had been born at a different time and place ?

Discussion in 'Religion' started by Ted Grant II, Dec 8, 2016.

  1. Ted Grant II Registered Member

    I suppose Jesus could have been born at a different time and a different place.
    Let's try to imagine that and what, if anything would be different.

    Let's say he was born in Ponders End, Enfield, London and is now 30.
    He decides to stop making book shelves and begin his ministry.

    What car would he own? A BMW or a VW perhaps?
    No, because of what the Nazis did to his people in the 1930s and 1940s.
    How about a Fiat or a Toyota ?
    No, because the Italians and the Japanese supported the Nazis.
    And lacking a little donkey, I think he would stick to Eco transport.

    He starts walking around London with a sandwich board that says:
    He decides that's not working, so he finds a few local homeless guys and
    shows them some street magic and they become convinced he has
    real magic powers. They decide to follow him around, picking up food
    where they can from food banks and sleeping in parks and under arches.

    By the light of a silvery moon or a street lamp, he tells them stories.
    He tells them there will be floods, earthquakes and Brexit. They gasp.
    He says a Dragon will harden the hearts and force through a Hard Brexit.
    He says from Heaven, a Golden Trump will cue the End Times.

    Jesus tells them that he will be put in an ice coffin for 3 days and survive.
    They are amazed. They continue walking around, spreading the word.

    He says that if they have enough faith, they will be able to say to a building,
    MOVE and it will move. Most believe him, although one did have doubts.

    Someone tells them that the local supermarket has a food donation bin.
    Jesus says he is hungry and asks his followers to go and get some food.
    A little while later, they come back and tell him the shop is closed.
    Why? asks Jesus.
    It's Sunday early closing !
    He curses the shop and said..
    That shop's sales will drop and cheaper EU rivals will take the business.
    A few weeks later, they pass the same shop again and see a sign...
    "We have MOVED"
    Here endeth the lesson.
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  3. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

    Certainly a reasonable attempt at humour.
    What I find interesting is if many of the claims made re Jesus were made today they would be rejected, certainly any human claiming God status would be seen as entirely delusional and yet move the story back two thousand years with dubious methods of recording the story and many proclaim it most reasonable and happy to embrace absurdity... Such is irrational faith.
    I think if you try and move the story to another time and place it will just sound silly to those who otherwise believe the story... Then again maybe they would still believe that nothing was made up.
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  5. Seattle Valued Senior Member

    I'm pretty sure he would have a man bun and wear a flannel shirt.
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  7. timojin Valued Senior Member

    What about if He comes back within 30 years. What sign will be given that is He
    Soon after the tribulation of the same time the sun and the moon will lose their appearance, and stars will fall from heaven, and the forces of the heavens will move. (Isaiah 13: 10) (2 Peter 3: 10) (Revelation 6: 12-13) 30 And the sign of the Son of man in the heavens shall appear. And then shall all the families of the earth howl, and shall see the Son of man in the clouds of heaven, with great power and glory. (Revelation 19: 11-13) 31 And he will send his angels with bright trombones, and they will gather his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other . (1 Corinthians 15:52) (Revelation 8.1-2)
  8. Seattle Valued Senior Member

    I'm waiting for the bright trombones but how bright will they have to be before we can be sure it's the coming? I'd like baby Jesus to come back.
  9. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

    Hi Timojin,
    Thank you for your contributions and commenting upon my post.
    You ask what if Jesus (I presume) comes back in 30 years and all I can say is we can only wait and see if he does come back.
    If I am alive he is welcome to stay at my place just so long as he does not discuss religion.

    Whst does it mean "the sign of the son of man in the heavens shall appear"?
    Is this open to multiple interpretations?
    What is your opinion?

    I dont like relevations it is sad such nonsence is allowed to appear in the bible.

    Anyways any light you can throw on the meaning of the passages you present I for one would appreciate.

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