What have the Republicans brought to the United States during their rule?

umthe dems tried to stop them also warned bush that they would be his biggest priorty and he ignored them. wanna try again and see if you get it right.

If they were such a threat, then why didn't your heroes do something about them?

Your kidding right? The greatsest expansion of global terrorism happens under a repub and you blame the dems.

Again see above reply.

Why does it not supprise me that you think giving people basic legal rights is a bad thing.

UMMM, maybe because a terrorist who wishes to destroy a population shouldn't have the same rights as that population. And to think, I am the idiot here!

 

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Bottom line Buffalo, no matter how you try to cut the pie and redefine measures, Democrats have a better track record of fiscal responsiblitly than the so called fiscal conservatives, the Republicans..especially in the last few decades.

Really?

Yes Buff, it is called the redistribution of wealth. You tax the hell out of everyone to pay for all the useless programs, and then it does not look like there is a deficit (at least not as bad).

 

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Yes really. And the more power the Republicans had, the worse the US economy became, to the point that having complete Republican control over every aspect of the Federal budget led within three years to the worst economic crises since the Great Depression - and in fact without the Socialist innovations put in place in response to that Republican event, possibly the worst economic crisis (in some measures, which would have had more effect without New Deal buffering) the US has had since its founding. And one that is still rolling in - the damage done by W&Co has not even taken full effect. If past patterns (Reagan's vandalism, say) hold - and they were comparatively minor disasters - the bottom will not arrive for two years yet, assuming sane economic approaches return to at least a couple of the branches of government immediately.

Quite the change from the hippie liberal Democrat socialist days of misery and horrible redistribution, when the ordinary working man could buy the ordinary new home on one 40 hr/week job.

 

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So you are for stealing from one person and giving it to another in the name of fairness.

 

I love it. What have the Republicans done?

"Blah, blah, blah, Clinton"

Seriously, you would have to be a complete retard to want more of what the Republicans have given us. They are the party responsible for ruining this country.

 

No, Buff I am on your side. I was jesting. I was mocking what the marxists would say.

 

Please explain what they (repubs) have done to ruin the country. I am admittedly leading you.

 

The credit crisis, Iraq, Katrina, politicizing the justice department, torture, illegal spying on Americans, failure to take the energy problem seriously...

 

And you think the Democrats have done anything serious to address those problems?

They went on summer recess when gas prices were $4.50 a gallon.

Katrina, went south when the Democratic Mayor, and Governor, failed to do what was necessary to evacuate and secure New Orleans, and failed to notify the Federal Agencies in a proper and timely manner.

Hell as for the Justice Department, Bill Clinton fired all of the Attorneys, and replaced them with his own select party hacks.

And as to spying on Americans:

American Thinker: Under Clinton, NY Times called surveillanc...
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Now exactly what have the Democrats done to take the energy crises seriously?

As to Torture:

http://frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=8FB24D9C-6344-4679-8A1D-32E0B4C4678C

Now I see that former President Clinton has offered a similar proposal. In a recent interview on National Public Radio, Clinton was asked, as someone "who's been there," whether the president needs "the option of authorizing torture in an extreme case."

This is what he said in response:

It is surprising that this interview with the former president has received so little attention from those who were so quick to jump all over me. Clinton goes even further than I did. He would, in extreme cases, authorize the granting of a warrant "post facto" by a specialized court, as is now the case with national security wiretaps. What I proposed is that the warrant authorization be issued before the use of extreme measures is permitted. A preliminary warrant could be issued in a manner of minutes, to be followed up by a more thorough, after-the-fact evaluation and review.

 

Oh come on! The credit crisis is the republicans fault? You've got to be nuts. Could it be potentially the poor historic regulation or....maybe the allowing of hedge funds and other similar investment techniques amongst large investors?

and Katrina? Was it fault the Corps of Engineers didn't get STATE/CITY funding to fix levies even after they predicted it? Who expected that many refugees from a hurricane?

Torture..Bill Clinton supported torture.

The energy problem is the Republicans fault? It's a HOUSE ISSUE, not an executive issue. How is a republican president supposed to fix that? The congress is democrat and refuses to allow anything, and offers no solution.

 

Yes, Chips, when the Shoe is on the Republican Foot the story is alway different, when the Shoe is on the Democratic foot, it a different story.

 

I am floored at the lame, outright stupid ignorant, false and misleading Bull Shit that comes from Buffalo and Chesk....utterly amazing. I am just floored. You guys must have some serious stash...that is all I can say. Chesk, you don't have a clue as to how the American government works...that is real obvious from your posts.

 

Yes, I have a serious stash, a real cookie duster, rather proude that I have had it now for 37 years.

 

George Senior promised that his son would not let the Republicans down. He has done them proud!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHKbKu4wuLQ&NR=1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsziT-oDgqE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUCw3r6s9Xw&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OdS85loWjeM&NR=1

 

More than the democRATS

 

So which part was wrong?

By the way; how the government works, and the way the governent works are not the same thing. I tend to know a decent amount about either topic.

 

Have you not been watching the news for the past 7 years

 

You obviously have never heard anything about the "the buck stops here". That is one of the many problems this president has...the buck never stops with him. It keeps getting passed around, ususally down hill. The old adage, shit rolls down hill is how this president does business. The job of the executive is to lead...something bush has never understood.

One, Clinton has never supported torture by any agency of the American Government. So it is a false claim, but even if it were true how is it relevant? It is not. It is like the Nazi guards at a concentration camp claiming innocence because the guy next to him committed the same atrocity. That kind of logic didn't work then and doesn't work today.

The energy crisis in not a House Issue. It is an executive issue. The president gives a State of the Union message which sets out the direction he want to lead the country. That message is delivered to Congress. Georgie has delivered some nice words at the State of the Union but failed to follow-up with any kind of leadership on energy policy. Additionally, the House and the Senate have been controlled by the Republicans for more than a decade. The presidency has been controlled by the Republicans for the last eight years. And despite controlling the legislative, executive and judical branches of govenment for almost a decade, they have done nothing with respect to energy policy. So you want to blame the House? It has only been controlled by the Democrats for less than two years. That is not enough time to do anything with respect to energy policy...especially when Republicans in the Senate and Executive branches like energy policy as it is.

The Corps of Engineers is not funded by the City nor the State. It is funded by the Federal Government. So why are you blaming the State and City for not funding the Corps of Engineers. To use its full name, The Army Corps of Engineers. The State nor the City is responsible for funding any part of the Department of the Army.

The credit crisis arose out of the failure of the executive branch to enforce existing regulations. Point in fact, the SEC has loosened and not enforced existing regulations. And that has been a big part of the problem. The issue with deriviative trading has been something that has been know for a very long time. Warren Buffet has been issuing warning calls for years, and no one listened to him. Now those warnings are coming home to roost.

The bottom line is the Republicans have controlled all branches of government for almost a decade, and they are still looking for a Democrat to blame for their misconduct. If they had any balls at all they would admit their mistakes and move forward. I am really amused when I hear Republicans still blaming Clinton for everything from moths to war...so funny if it were not true.

So despite your vast knowledge of the American Government and how it works (how it works on paper and in practice), why do you not know that the Army Corps of Engineers (the agency responsible for maintenance of the levees) is not funded by the state or city governments? Why are you blaming state and city government for not investing in the levees when it is not their responsibility and have no roll in setting or directing the actions of hte Army Corps of Engineers...which by the way are under direct control of the President of the United States?

 

Here is a link to the United States Army Corps of Engineers.

http://www.usace.army.mil/who/

 

So then, how would democrats do better. BTW-I am excepting these premises, but I am seeking what could democrats do that would be better.

I can't let this one pass. Katrina had nothing to with republicans or democrats, it is a local and then state issue.

And I do think the republicans, although I concede the point that maybe not enough at the national level, are taking the energy problems seriously, but I am not sure we are at a stage where alternatives absolutely have to be used.

Democrats have never spied on Americans?????? It also depends on what you mean by spying? There are a lot of ways to spy, and a good majority of them are born of democrat policies of big government. But I concede the point that Bush is not far off, however I am not sure that republicans can be blamed for this.

Torture is a military issue that was only brought up because democrats decided that terrorists should have constitutional protection. Yes, I understand it is not quite that simple. I am hioping you get what I am saying.

Iraq should not be a party problem, if it is I am afraid you know why that is.