What happen to the chimps, since 8 million years

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  1. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    Genesis got it all wrong.
     
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  3. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Ah, but Genesis 2 says that man came first, then animals. Which is sort of backwards. (And of course contradicts Genesis 1.)
     
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  5. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    I Take Genesis 1 chapter 2 is for other situation . Shows disobedience of ma.
    Dr. I like your style , trow a rick and hide away
     
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  7. Dr_Toad It's green! Valued Senior Member

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    "Trow a rick"? WTF?
     
  8. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    A rock , as a metaphor. You usually come up with a criticism , but you hardly ever post, probably you must be to sensitive
     
  9. Dr_Toad It's green! Valued Senior Member

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    But not illiterate.
     
  10. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Look, it's one thing to criticise someone's ideas, but Tim's first language is not English. It's the depth of trollery to mock someone's writing.

    You're derailing a discussion I'm trying to have with someone.
     
  11. Dr_Toad It's green! Valued Senior Member

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    Apologies. I'll ignore him.
     
  12. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    It's really pretty clear. In Genesis 2, man comes first, then everything else.

    Line 5 - no plants yet; no water on land yet
    Line 6 - God creates streams and rivers
    Line 7 - he creates man
    Line 8 - he creates a garden
    Line 9 - he creates trees
    Line 19 - he creates animals
    Line 22 - he creates woman

    So per Genesis 2, first came man, then plants, then animals, then woman.
     
  13. Kittamaru Now nearly 40 pounds lighter. Staff Member

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    Dr_Toad - I don't think you need reminding that not everyone grew up speaking English? Please keep that in mind - that comment was unnecessary.
     
  14. Dr_Toad It's green! Valued Senior Member

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    Thanks. I've been corrected, and I apologize.
     
  15. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    Still wrong. The bible is full of other factual errors too, as long as we are being serious about science. A mustard seed isn't the smallest seed, and the Great Flood never happened.
     
  16. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    Sorry. I don't discuss chapter 2, The order of evolution is in chapter 1
    I don't think I have to print you chapter one , since you have # 2 from were you are quoting you must have # 1
    If you want to base your argument on # 1 I will not debate.
     
  17. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    I don't think is proper to equalize how it was said before 2000 years ago to the present language .
    I am sure if you compare writings from 200 years ago and some meaning you will find discrepancy
     
  18. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    That is great you are literate. Your comments are not more than 5 word if any , I have not sean any writing from you about 30 to 49 word. Is that a reason that you are afraid to show your literacy ?
     
  19. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Why do you ignore chapter 2 of Genesis?
     
  20. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    Chapter # 2 Is a set up to show. Man to be in a comfortable place ( paradise ) but to be alone he is not satisfied so he should have a companion . So a companion is provided ( woman ) a woman is more restless
    She listen to different people ( I don't believe in a talking snake ) people from outside of the paradise , got convinced by them and then convinced tha man , then they disobeyed the law , and consequences have taken place. I don't believe Chapter # 2 have much to do with creation and evolution
     
  21. origin Trump is the best argument against a democracy. Valued Senior Member

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    This should be moved to the religion section unless you are going to go back to just denying evolution. I know that I was probably the one that derailed this thread so we should probably steer it back on path.

    A common ancestor simply means if you and chimp were to look back at your great-great-great.......great-great grandfather they would be the same primate. It has nothing to do with religions or atheism.
     
  22. spidergoat Valued Senior Member

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    But the meaning is factually wrong. It's not just a matter of language differences. And besides, wouldn't God know how to communicate effectively? Or is the Bible just the work of people?
     
  23. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Well, if you only believe bits and pieces of _anything_ and throw out the rest you can force it to make sense*. But that is due to very creative editing on your part, not due to any accuracy in the source material.

    * - After all, Jesus turned water to wine. If you assume that he took the water, used it to grow grapes, then harvested the grapes and made wine - and the Bible just left all that out because they didn't think it was important - then he doesn't even need any supernatural powers to do so.
     
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