Discussion in 'Eastern Philosophy' started by John J. Bannan, Aug 7, 2007.
I think only philosopher types who gave up on materialistic lifestyle,
would be happy doing that
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I thought that enlightement was simply being happy in whatever youre doing
I doubt its possible for any human being to be free from fear,anger sorrow misery ...simply b/c we have feelings,empathy,these wont ever leave you unless youre a psychopath
imo only way to be free to live the way you want is to CONTROL your emotions/feelings,so these dont control you
No, it's possible, all you have to do is remove (not suppress or ignore, or wave off) all the insecurities and defiling impulses within you...you should try it..the feeling is great...
If you do it long enough then it's like being totally stoned on drugs: without the drugs.
When you get up to do things then everything gets back to a crude "normal" until you start "meditating" again to get totally stoned, like no drugs on Earth can make you.
Yeah, I understand what you mean about it being like drugs, except it's a lot better than drugs, all those types of pleasure are under material nature, even the voidness of deep relaxation is under material nature....
So is it possible to be an enlightened but active murderer? Or do morals come into it somewhere?
Meditation only prepairs your mind for action by letting it relax and absorb positive vibrations from inner thoughts that you keep hidden away.
Meditation means a lot of different things to different people:
but if it has a purpose or motive then it will never ever have anything to do with "Enlightenment" ... SELF-realization --
UNLESS it, meditation, is used to study how thoughts cannot work, or be predicted or controlled.
A PhD in this "study-of-thoughts" -- the 5000 year old Hindu "Supreme Science" -- is an absolute guarantee of SELF-realization.
The fact that a person becomes enlightened has nothing to do with being the same as every enlightened person that ever was. It simply means that you do God´s will at perfection, because the force that drives you is no longer the ego, but God-Conscience.
According to the teachings of Atisha: meditation means to be the watcher of your thoughts. By watching the thoughts, you cristalize the soul, and thoughts dissapear... Once the thoughs dissapear, you watch the watcher, and the miracle... Samadhi...
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