What good is a life of meditation without action?

Discussion in 'Eastern Philosophy' started by John J. Bannan, Aug 7, 2007.

  1. John J. Bannan Registered Senior Member

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    Wouldn't it be a complete waste of one's life to sit like the Buddha and meditate all the time? Where's the fun in that?
     
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  3. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    That may be someone's idea of fun.

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  5. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    He didn't meditate all of the time, they just depict him that way. Many times he is lying down,standing up or leaning against a lovely lady!

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  7. VitalOne Banned Banned

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    Well once you achieve enlightenment you'll be free from fear, anger, sorrow, misery, etc...and be able to do whatever you desire freely, you'd have unalloyed enjoyment, that's a lot more fun...
     
  8. John J. Bannan Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, in theory, I guess that's true. I don't buy the theory, however.
     
  9. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    It's good for nothing! ....and it's not fun!
     
  10. Wisdom_Seeker Speaker of my truth Valued Senior Member

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    I find it fun, but thats just me. If you donĀ“t like sitting like the Buddha, meditation can mean dancing consciently, eating consciently, playing consciently, making love consciently...

    Krishna was enlightened, and He used to sing and dance.
     
  11. VitalOne Banned Banned

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    Well it's really simple, when you meditate and control your senses, etc...you get rid of your insecurities, defiling impulses, etc...and if your insecurities and defliing impulses are gone, how can anger, fear, sorrow, disatisfaction, misery, boredom, frustration, or any degree of misery exist anymore?

    Everyone is (unconsciously) seeking pleasure, but material pleasure is temporary, even the heavenly worlds are temporary, the reason the enjoyment is temporary is because the pleasure actually comes from within you, it has no other cause...
     
  12. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    Meditation is an exercise, not a way of life.
     
  13. EmptyForceOfChi Banned Banned

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    the buddhas did not meditate all of the time. but when they did meditate it was not a waste of time, because it had its rewards.

    i meditate alot and it has helped me dispose of emotions that are not needed. like fear, greed and jelousy.


    peace.
     
  14. John J. Bannan Registered Senior Member

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    But I like fear, greed and jealousy! They are what make me get up and go to work in the morning. Fear of no money. Greed for money. And jealousy of others who have money.
     
  15. spidergoat Liddle' Dick Tater Valued Senior Member

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    Suit yourself. Why should we care?
     
  16. srikar Registered Senior Member

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    Is anything wrong in meditation.
     
  17. VitalOne Banned Banned

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    No you don't, you like the happiness you gain from them, not the fear, greed, or jealousy itself...
     
  18. John J. Bannan Registered Senior Member

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    No. I do like those negative emotions. They motivate me - not the happiness. I don't get up and go to work because it will later make me feel happy. I go to work because I am scared not to.
     
  19. VitalOne Banned Banned

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    Right, so you like the motivation, not the negative emotions...you derive some form of happiness, pleasure, or enjoyment from the emotions, but it's not the emotions itself you like...but the pleasure, enjoyment, happiness, motivation, high-energy, sense of fulfillment, etc...
     
  20. John J. Bannan Registered Senior Member

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    Well, obviously you can't literally like a negative emotion - otherwise it wouldn't be negative. Nevertheless, I like what they do for me.
     
  21. River Ape Valued Senior Member

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    You NEED plenty of exercise!
    You never see Buddha meditating while doing press-ups.
    I bet he ended up with diabetes.

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  22. heliocentric Registered Senior Member

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    Kinda, the universe is a medium of 'doing' essentially, so meditation is only of use if you want to bypass the universe altother and seek out 'non-doing' as a form of existance.
     
  23. Grantywanty Registered Senior Member

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    Couldn't you have another motivational system?
     

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