If I use the word "if", there is a good chance you have done it, hence my saying it. Its usage is more aimed at indicating an effect arising from a cause. I could also use "because". It's not. Just look at your recent fall back on your assertions on who owns the responsibility of being sincere in a q & a format. Then you are not being as successful as you could be. Every time fallacies of argument and discussion are employed, whatever one tries to promote in the name of rational discussion is undermined. Note, this has nothing to do with the subject under discussion, its about methodology. While this is a sort of casual forum, so one can expect an element of ego jockeying from time to time, if the medium is overwhelmed by its relentless pursuit you inadvertently bring the subject of attitude to the discussion as the main focus. Ok, that's good to know. Thanks.