Were We Told the Truth about World War 2?

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  1. origin In a democracy you deserve the leaders you elect. Valued Senior Member

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  7. spidergoat Venued Serial Membership Valued Senior Member

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    I'm sure that would convince certain brain damaged adolescent wannabe Nazis living in their parent's basement, but... that's not me.
     
  8. origin In a democracy you deserve the leaders you elect. Valued Senior Member

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    I went ahead and reported this since you were asked not to just spam the thread with these pro-nazi skinhead videos and actually discuss your disturbed ideas.
     
  9. Kittamaru Suppose it makes sense. Wearing a bit thin. Valued Senior Member

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    FatFreddy, please either provide some discussion on why you believe this... drivel... or stop linking these videos. Simple choice, really.
     
  10. FatFreddy Registered Senior Member

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    I just think what these videos say makes sense.

    "Black Holocaust Lies"
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bTzvOmIcDc&list=PL2281319AA67405E6

    "The Dachau Gas Chamber"
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4nY6T46aGA#t=1474

    Can't I just present the info and ask why I shouldn't think the info makes sense?


    I raised an issue in post #113.
    http://www.sciforums.com/showthread...-World-War-2&p=3157907&viewfull=1#post3157907


    Nobody responded. Somebody please respond.
     
  11. origin In a democracy you deserve the leaders you elect. Valued Senior Member

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    Nobody in their right mind wants to watch pro-nazi skinhead movies made by inherently evil psychotics.

    You were asked not to just link movies and you did anyway, so I will report this, just in case none of the moderators wanted to come onto this thread - I know I always feel that I need to shower after viewing this thread.

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  12. Kittamaru Suppose it makes sense. Wearing a bit thin. Valued Senior Member

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    Fat Freddy, consider the yellow card your official warning... stop the argument ad youtube...
     
  13. spidergoat Venued Serial Membership Valued Senior Member

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    I love Fat Freddy, please don't be so harsh on my friend. If the number of 6 million Jews, Gypsies, gays, Africans, the mentally retarded, and assorted lowlifes killed by the fucking Nazis is not exact, I am willing to concede that 5 million, or 4 million, or 3 million, or 2 million, or 1 million people wouldn't be so bad, it's just the price to pay for a pure Germany.
     
  14. Kittamaru Suppose it makes sense. Wearing a bit thin. Valued Senior Member

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    Spidergoat... in the interest of sanity, I'm going to ask you to review your statement and revise it so that it DOESN'T sound like you are calling "Jews, Gypsies, gays, Africans, the mentally retarded" all low-lifes... because I sincerely hope that isn't what your intent was. I don't BELIEVE that was your intent either... and maybe it's just my tired mind reading it that way but... yeah... that's kind of what it reads as to me.
     
  15. spidergoat Venued Serial Membership Valued Senior Member

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    If you don't understand how sarcasm works, I can't help you. Holocaust deniers piss me off, because they know they can't deny the obvious, so they seek to minimize it. As if half of a tragedy isn't a tragedy.
     
  16. quinnsong Valued Senior Member

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    For FatFreddy RIP,

    My country's tired of me, I'm going to Germany to serve the King.

    I'll serve him saerkraut and in the streets I'll shout,

    Hotsie, totsie, I'm a Nazi!

    (Sung like My Country Tis of Thee.)
     
  17. FatFreddy Registered Senior Member

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    I'm risking getting banned by posting this but it's important.

    Listen to what this guy says at the 4:55 time mark.

    Tehran Holocaust Conference 2006: Prof. Robert Faurisson - Victories of Revisionism - part 2/2


    He explains that the way history tell us that the workers removed the bodies from the gas chamber would have been technically impossible. If this can't be disproved, it closes the whole case.

    The subject is touched on at the 5:55 time mark of this video too.


    One of the supposed workers who supposedly dragged the bodies out of the supposed gas chambers explains how he supposedly did it.
     
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    fat freddy,
    the nazi germany concentration camps was a reality.
    some prisoners were gassed, some died of malnutrition, some by exposer, some by experiments, and some by trying to escape.
    these prisoners were not only jews but russian, german, and gays.
    they were gassed at the camps themselves and in the back of moving vans
    the only real question is one of numbers, not of method.

    yes freddy, the camps actually existed, and the prisoners suffered appalling situations.

    hitler and his nazi regime was the most disgusting group of people this planet has seen in a long time.

    wernher von braun has ouright stated he knew of the existence of concentration camps and even used some of the prisoners as slave labor.

    like i said, the question is one of numbers, not of methods
     
  20. FatFreddy Registered Senior Member

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    You didn't address the issue I raised. The issue is whether it was possible to remove the bodies from the gas chambers the way the guy in the video said he did.
     
  21. Kittamaru Suppose it makes sense. Wearing a bit thin. Valued Senior Member

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    It would depend entirely on what gas(es) was(were) used to kill the people in the chamber, and how quickly they dissipate/are ventilated out.
     
  22. leopold Valued Senior Member

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    i don't care about any videos.
    why?
    because i am CONVINCED that these camps, and the methods of "execution", was a reality freddy.
    i guess next you will say twins were never experimented on.

    nazi germany was nothing more than a walking boner for torture freddy.
     
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    If I watched the correct video, I have to agree that this man as portrayed in the link I watched has credibility issues, issues which can be cross referenced with other sources. His is the only claim of 2K people at once.

    From wikipedia:

    The exact number of victims at Auschwitz is difficult to fix with certainty, as many prisoners were never registered and much evidence was destroyed by the SS in the final days of the war...

    While under interrogation, Höss said that Adolf Eichmann told him that two and a half million Jews had been killed in gas chambers and about half a million had died of other causes... *note that is "in gas chambers" and does not mean just at Auschwitz.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auschwitz_concentration_camp

    An older link you posted tries also to make the claim this gas chamber (Dachau) wasnt used. OK fine, but that is not new information:

    Quote from wiki:
    Extermination camps are frequently confused with concentration camps such as Dachau and Belsen, which were mostly located in Germany and intended as places of incarceration and forced labor for a variety of enemies of the Nazi regime (such as Communists and homosexuals).

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Holocaust#Extermination_camps_2

    As far as your thread title...

    I was told 3 to 6 million Jews died in WW2. I was told starvation, murder, fighting, disease and gas chambers were all causes of death. I was also told we may never know exactly how many died.

    I am really unsure of what your point is. It seems to me you misunderstood what you were being told; there never has been an absolute number of dead given (because we simply do not know for sure) nor was there an absolute number of deaths via gas chamber vs disease vs starvation etc. But after (painfully) watching two of your links, my suggestion to you would be to spend a bit of time cross checking the information they give to you to see if they really have a point to make or if they are engaging in their own form of rhetoric; displaying information as new when its really not.
     
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