Were Adam & Eve The First Ever Humans?

Discussion in 'Religion' started by Jan Ardena, Feb 25, 2019.

  1. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    It mentions "adam".
    Genesis clearly says that there were two.

    We've been through this many times. You asking the same inane questions over and over isn't going to change what the Bible says. Try something different.
     
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  3. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Which means “mankind”, “human race”.
    “Adam” in the 2nd Chapter means, “man” (singular) “of ruddy complexion”, “ to show blood in the face”.
    If you don’t believe me, look it up for yourself (Strongs concordance).

    No it doesn’t. Not in Chspter 1.
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    See above.

    There’s no need.
    Just look it up for yourself.
    Otherwise I have to reiterate it.

    Jan.
     
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  5. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    You don't get to declare what it "means" in one case and what it "means" in the other. It says the same thing in both cases.
    Yes it does. See above.
    I have looked it up. Hebrew scholars agree with me. Christian scholars agree with me. Only a tiny minority of pre-Adamites agree with you.

    You can reiterate until the cows come home. You're still wrong.
     
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  7. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Yes I do.
    We have a means of understanding the language which is being interpreted.
    You are just going along with an undocumented belief.

    No it doesn’t.
    Simply stating it does, doesn’t make it so
    See Strongs Co

    Makes no difference.
    You have to look at what the words mean. Then you have to use the words as they are meant.
    Christians, Jews, and Muslims, and Atheists, believe that

    I will.
    And I’m not wrong.
    The meanings off the words, in their coroner context, backs me up,
    You’re the one who is wrong.

    Jan.
     
  8. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Not covered with hair, not a gorilla, in other words. The hairless primate. That is a very distinctive feature of human anatomy - hunters quickly learn to camouflage their faces.
     
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  9. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Genesis 1: So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.
    1 Timothy 2: For Adam was formed first, then Eve
    1 Corinthians 15: The first man Adam became a living soul
    Once again you are confused between reality and what the Bible says.

    In REALITY the human race was never composed of two people.
    In THE BIBLE, initally there were only two people - Adam and Eve.
    ?? It doesn't. The Council of Nicea (and many other religious councils) want you to think that it was written by a single infallible author, to better demand your obedience to it. You have to study it to realize it was written by two authors.
    Different styles. Different words for God. Different orders of things occurring, such that one contradicts the other.

    Right. God created Eve to help Adam, then told her she'd be having babies.
    Genesis 3: "you shall bring forth children." Which makes sense, "because she was the mother of all living." Again, Genesis 3.

    Let me know if you don't understand the connection between "bring forth children" and "have babies" or what a mother is.

    Genesis 3: "you shall bring forth children."
    Right. It meant the mother of all living humans.
    Tell you what. You keep making shit up, and I will keep posting the actual words of the Bible to prove they are lies. And we'll let readers decide.
     
  10. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    Read my lips: I HAVE SEEN Strong's Concordance. I have two hard copies and two copies on computers. It does NOT say what you claim it says.
     
  11. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    Where in the Bible does it say they were married?
     
  12. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Genesis 1: So God created man in His own image; in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.
    1 Corinthians 15: The first man Adam became a living soul
    1 Timothy 2: For Adam was formed first, then Eve
     
  13. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    It means “mankind”, “human race”.
    “Adam” in the 2nd Chapter means, “man” (singular) “of ruddy complexion”, “ to show blood in the face”.
    If you don’t believe me, look it up for yourself (Strongs concordance).

    Jan
     
  14. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

    Duh!

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  15. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    What does it say then?

    Jan.
     
  16. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    1 Corinthians 15: The first man Adam became a living soul
    1 Timothy 2: For Adam was formed first, then Eve
    And "violet" means "purple." Is any woman named Violet therefore purple?
     
  17. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    “Adam” in the 2nd Chapter means, “man” (singular) “of ruddy complexion”, “ to show blood in the face”.
    If you don’t believe me, look it up for yourself (Strongs concordance).

    Are you saying there aren’t folk who show blood in the face?

    Jan
     
  18. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    There sure are. One here is named Dennis. Another is named Mike.
    The only Adam I know here isn't ruddy at all. Pretty pale face actually. HOW CAN THAT BE?

    And this is REALLY going to blow your mind! I even know a Violet who isn't purple, and a guy named Red who isn't red.
     
  19. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Was Eve the mother of all the animals, and plants that were created before she was?

    Jan.
     
  20. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Correct. The human race was created on the sixth day of creation according to the bible.

    [quotIn THE BIBLE, initally there were only two people - Adam and Eve.[/QUOTE]

    No there wasn’t.

    So stop saying it does.

    Nonsense!
    You blindly believe the modern institutionalised Christian belief. That belief is based on whatever the defunct Roman Empire wanted it to be.

    Yeah. Eve was the mother of the apple tree she got the forbidden apple from. Wasn’t she?

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  21. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Hey you’re good!

    Jan.
     
  22. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    Just out of curiosity, why do you equal husband with marriage? When in the Bible does it equate husband with marriage?
     
  23. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    I am not saying the Bible says that. I am saying that IN REALITY it was written by more than one author. There is a difference.

    You have an almost pathological inability to tell fact from fiction. First you believe that Santa Claus is real, now you have trouble telling the Bible from reality. It's going to be hard for you to make any rational argument with a disability like that.
     

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