We never went to the moon.

Discussion in 'Conspiracies' started by Ryndanangnysen, Mar 4, 2015.

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  1. Kittamaru No more Staff Member

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    Isn't there footage of the reflectors being placed by the astronauts?
     
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  5. AlexG Like nailing Jello to a tree Valued Senior Member

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    So Fat thinks we had the technology to send all this equipment to the moon, perform soft landings by remote control, the ability to position all this equipment at various locations around the landing site, but did not have the technology to send up a manned craft? There's more than a little illogic in Fat's alleged mind.
     
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  7. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    I don't believe that at all.
     
  8. FatFreddy Registered Senior Member

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    You're not considering the theory of space radiation's being stronger than we're told.
    http://www.sciforums.com/threads/is...-levels-and-nature-of-space-radiation.152731/
     
  9. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    It's hard to believe we still have morons that believe such nonsensical conspiracy issues.
    When we see such arrogant criminals such as the following ratbag, [Sibrel] so eagerly pushing their nonsensical cause, it can be compared to the religious ratbaggery and extremism we are sometimes accustomed to in this day and age.
    It appears mental instability is still amongst us...

     
  10. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    http://www.clavius.org/envrad.html

    "The recent Fox TV show, which I saw, is an ingenious and entertaining assemblage of nonsense. The claim that radiation exposure during the Apollo missions would have been fatal to the astronauts is only one example of such nonsense." -- Dr. James Van Allen
     
  11. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    It's truly amazing how in a world where conspiracies rule, such as the Moon landings, 9/11, Kennedy assassination, etc etc, that people such as our obese friend Freddy, is game enough to even get out of bed in the mornings!

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  12. origin In a democracy you deserve the leaders you elect. Valued Senior Member

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  13. Kittamaru No more Staff Member

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    Prove to me you aren't simply some computer somewhere designed to argue with people.

    You are forgetting the "reasonable" part of reasonable proof...
     
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    The idea behind this article is that Van Allen started working for NASA and, from then on, didn't say what he really believed.
    http://www.sciforums.com/threads/is...-levels-and-nature-of-space-radiation.152731/

    The Clavius site is a disinfo site. The posters on its forum are paid sophists. Anyone who reads its threads in which they debate with hoax-believers can see the sophistry.

    Here's some info on Clavius.
    http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?t=125628

    The links in post #6 are dead. Here's a page that has the live links.
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144487&page=147&p=7712820&viewfull=1#post7712820

    I debated with Jay Windley a few times. Here's a sample.

    I said this.
    http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8135606&postcount=7907

    He responded with this.
    http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=8144391&postcount=7990
    http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=251326


    Those posters from Clavius post at several forums. The can have a measure of success when they just talk to each other in front of a group of people who haven't seen the hoax proof. When the viewers are shown the proof they're discussing and they have to answer real questions from truthers, they have to say some pretty lame things to maintain their positions.
     
  15. spidergoat Venued Serial Membership Valued Senior Member

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    Do you understand that anomalies are subjective? Plenty of scientists see the same photos and videos and don't recognize the so-called anomalies that you do. I don't see anything unusual either. How do you feel that your whole argument is based on your personal feelings that something looks odd?
     
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    One more conspiracy after another and another and another etc etc etc.

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    You mean as opposed to the crazy impressionable conspiracy web sites you obtain your nonsense from?
    In essence that's all you have...claims of one conspiracy after another after another, to obviously try and deride the overwhelming convincing evidence and the fact that we did go to the Moon, at least 9 times with 6 landings.
    And no amount of conspiracies and irrational denials will ever change fact.
    Buzz Aldrin should have been awarded a medal for his tremendous right cross to Bart Sibrel's jaw.
     
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    The Gish Gallop is the debating technique of drowning an opponent in such a torrent of small arguments that the opponent cannot possibly answer or address each one in real time. More often than not, these myriad arguments are full of half-truths, lies, and straw-man arguments — the only condition is that there be many of them, not that they be particularly compelling on their own. They may be escape hatches or "gotcha" arguments that are specifically designed to be brief, but take a long time to unravel. Thus, galloping is frequently used in timed debates (especially by creationists) to overwhelm one's opponent.

    http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Gish_Gallop
     
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    It's just a summary of hoax info. There are about fifteen pro-Apollo sites for every hoax-believer site which makes the hoax info hard to come across. I just sifted through and found the hoax stuff as a favor for the viewers so that they wouldn't have to look for it.

    Anyway, we can talk about just one anomaly at a time if you want. Here's some info on the flag anomaly.
    http://www.politicalforum.com/moon-landing/362999-air-caused-flag-move-so-obviously-studio.html


    Initial Apollo 15 Flag Movement



    Most of the pro-Apollo people I've debated insist that the astronaut brushed the flag with his elbow which caused the flag to move. The above video shows that the flag had already started moving before he got close enough to touch it.


     
  20. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Wrong I ignore nothing including the diatribe from you, the trumped up conspiracies that you obtain from crank websites, the impressionable nonsense, the anti establishment crap, the observational evidence of the factual Moon landings, and then I logically dismiss all that obviously is nonsensical, crazy and irrational, along with most reasonable, sensible people and conclude we did go to the Moon 9 times.
    But you keep telling yourself we didn't...you may even convince yourself of that.

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  21. AlexG Like nailing Jello to a tree Valued Senior Member

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    I don't think there's ever been a conspiracy nut who's been dissuaded from believing in his pet theory.
     
  22. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    There are no anomalies except those in your own mind and driven by your own irrational outlook on the world.
     
  23. Kristoffer Giant Hyrax Valued Senior Member

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    We might be able to spot what we deem as anomalies in him. To him the rest of us are probably anomalies.
     
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