We never went to the moon.

Discussion in 'Conspiracies' started by Ryndanangnysen, Mar 4, 2015.

  1. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    I'm not disparaging it; I'm just saying it was a little fluffy - at least by comparison to almost every other movie with Afro-Americans in the 60s.
     
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  3. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    More undisputable proof we went to the Moon from a man who parked his car on moon and this was accepted as evidence by a council



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  5. river

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    So where did the rocks from the moon , if not from the moon , come from ?
     
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  7. Gawdzilla Sama Registered Senior Member

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    "You can't prove they came from the Moon, nobody's ever been there to get samples for comparison." /circularlogic
     
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  9. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    ........Cue merry-go-round music.........
     
  10. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    And of course the Russians go there and collect samples for comparison the cry will be - they are fake samples from the same place as the Apollo ones

    As I recall the Russians did bring back a small sample but via a small non manned probe

    So it still boils down to we never sent men to the moon

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  11. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    "Plausible" indeed.
    Any single circumstance can plausibly be explained.
    Which is why rational people don't accept just a single (or even several) data points.

    What they accept is what is known as a preponderance of evidence. Such as that which points to the Apollo missions going to and returning from the Moon.
     
  12. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Has anyone watched the first video?
    I got thru a bit and the concerns re photos seem reasonable and I wonder what others think?
    Alex
     
  13. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    I find two things curious.

    Firstly
    Although trivial I would have thought what presumably would have been hard not to notice (forget absence of stars in photos as cameras would not have picked them up at the low iso they used) would be the beauty of the stars.

    Only last night looking up in a dark location it was so beautiful I find it strange no one ever commented .maybe they did and if so I would love to hear their words.

    Maybe for some reason my belief that the sky would have taken your breath away is wrong.

    Would the Moon have been the ultimate dark location for star gazing or not?

    Secondly and this puzzles me because I expect the answer is very simple.

    Why in a vacuum don't the suits inflate like say a weather balloon such that it bursts and that is well before it reaches conditions similar to the moon.

    We all have seen the power of atmospheric pressure in the oil can collapse and I expect that the internal pressure of the suit against the external vacuum would have had them looking like the Michelin Man.

    I doubt if anyone actually looks at the videos claiming fake, why bother we know they are all nutters who make them...
    However the photos taken of the astronaut on the ladder in the shade poses a problem.

    And this is my observation not anything I have seen.

    The iso on the still camera would not pick up the stars, which is reasonable, but that iso would never get anything in the shadow side of the craft ...zip... That is in my view I think iso was 160 and I welcome guidance as to how such a photo could be taken and achieve a rather good image.

    I noticed once, but I can't find footage in support, that there was no time delay between moon and Earth conversations similar to what you notice on the news when the desk in Sydney crosses to the reporter in London and the chap in London clearly waits as the signal travels to reach him. You could expect a noticeable 1-5 seconds... I think they were landing and as I recall the chat went back and forth and years ago I though some TV camera adjustment being guided from Earth did not seem to have a lag.

    But I can't be bothered going thru this stuff simply to go over to the dark side...

    I don't want to argue nor do I think we did not go but I do wonder about how the stars probably would blow you away and why their suits did not show any signs of blowing up like balloons free of wrinkles.

    Alex
     
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  14. Michael 345 Valued Senior Member

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    They do

    Remember the Soviet cosmonaut had trouble getting back into his craft

    And from memory so did one of the Gemini astronauts

    Not sure about the time delay. Some years ago there was some sort of science show in Darwin. You could stand in front of a cam which sent the video to bounce off the moon and return to the monitor. Very noticeable delay

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  15. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    There must be a delay but I will leave it to others to look for it.

    I don't care strangely.
    I would be just as happy if someone could pull off the hoax.

    And frankly I think it is naive to believe that the USA could not fool the world let's face it people can be fooled..look at the church well all the religions. Folk will believe firstly what they want to believe and so many want to believe they have a special friend...so it would be easy to fool them for a start.

    And how to keep a secret...no problem if there are billions of dollars available...discredit the nutters, and if they know something and open their mouths they are nutters for sure, and if they really look as though they could be a threat pay them off.

    I can push a case for or against its only the client who is right.
    Alex
     

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