Was more than one shooter involved in the JFK assassination?

Discussion in 'Conspiracies' started by River Ape, Nov 30, 2013.

  1. River Ape Valued Senior Member

    Well, to the degree that I found the evidence overwhelming in the end, this is true.

    Do you have any experience of firearms? I know that trained marksmen failed repeatedly to replicate the shot that Oswald is alleged to have pulled off. Maybe some TV program or whatever found someone in the end who accomplished the feat. But no one has produced evidence that Oswald spent the hours of practice that a top marksman requires, and that old Italian WWII rifle is the last weapon a "trained shooter" would use for the task.

    If you were saying, "I agree that Oswald was freakishly lucky, but . . .", then I could believe I might be dealing with someone with an open mind prepared to evaluate the facts even handedly.

    And you now think he is lying in order to make money?

    I do not believe that.

    If can't find anything YOU won't dispute!
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  3. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

    River Ape,

    And on my side I have found the conspiracy evidence I have seen to be underwhelming.

    A little.

    And I have heard opinions from trained marksmen who say that the shot was not overly difficult.

    You still haven't commented on the timing and other issues I have mentioned.

    I've already said that some luck may have been involved. I'm not convinced it had to be freakish.

    What I know about him is what I've read in this thread. No more.

    Do you think it is worth examining what might be in it for people who are talking up the conspiracy angle? That is, are you as critical of the witnesses who support your conspiracy theory as you are of those who do not?

    Well, I'm sure you have the numbers to show I'm wrong on this, then. Or some other valid reason for not believing it.

    I'm just asking for the basic facts about the audio at this point. I'm not disputing anything yet because I don't have enough information about your claim. Surely you know the source of the audio you referred to?
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  5. River Ape Valued Senior Member

    If you believe that, I QUIT.
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  7. origin In a democracy you deserve the leaders you elect. Valued Senior Member

    Oh come on, you guys never quit...
  8. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

    Ok. I thought you'd probably pull out when you found you couldn't actually support your beliefs, River Ape.
  9. Balerion Banned Banned

    Why are his trained marksmen less reliable than yours? Both of you are making (necessary) appeals to authority on this, so how could you possibly be so incredulous as to quit over this point?

    I think James is right, and you're bailing because you can't actually support your position.
  10. River Ape Valued Senior Member

    Well, mostly I quit because I am in retail and the lead up to Xmas is a frantically busy time of the year, and I felt I was wasting my valuable time.
    But here's a clip of Clint Hill, the guy who leaped onto the trunk of the car, describing the same gaping hole in the back of JFK's skull that Dr McClelland insisted was there, and which did not appear on the faked autopsy photo. And it was faked, I suggest, because the hole was so obviously an EXIT wound -- proving that JFK was hit from in front (which was what the doctors reported in the first place).
  11. River Ape Valued Senior Member

    And here's another clip with evidence from Governor Connally
    referring to JFK's "blood and brain tissue ALL OVER THE BACK of the limousine" ...

    BTW, look at the flags flying at the start of the clip. There was a wind blowing that day in Dallas which made Oswald's scoring a hit on the President from the book depository an even more unlikely story. They never did find his wind gauge, did they?

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