War: Good or Bad?

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by halo07guy, Sep 23, 2007.

  1. halo07guy Registered Senior Member

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    This is for the community to discuss their views on war and its effects. For example: Its bad since it can result in the annihilation of the species, deaths of millions, and can leave millions homeless. But on the other hand, it nearly quadruples the rate at which technollogy advances, helps control over-population of the planet, can establish trading partners and give millions jobs and can improve the life of just as many people. I guess it depends on your point of view, but its kind of hard to discern whether or not it helps mankind as a whole, or weakens us.
     
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  3. draqon Banned Banned

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    War is greatest progress inducer

    War takes away lifes

    War teaches humans value of life

    War creates chaos
     
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  5. scorpius a realist Valued Senior Member

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    yeah it all depends on which side are YOU on,the one doing the killing or the one being killed!!

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    wars are totaly unecesary imo unfortunately our Leaders are still too unevolved to even try a better way to keep the economy going.

    it'll probably take another thousand years or so before Americans become as intelligent as Europeans,who had hundreds of years of wars and now know better.then to repeat more of the same
     
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  7. maxg Registered Senior Member

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    Bad.
     
  8. draqon Banned Banned

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    War is mostly good
     
  9. Oli Heute der Enteteich... Registered Senior Member

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    Um, that sort of thing doesn't generally go by which "side" you're on.
    I believe that, on occasion, some of the "good guys" get killed and some of the "bad guys" do the killing.
    Pretty much random.
     
  10. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    A common theme that has emerged in critiques of my "Wartime Economist" columns on Antiwar.com is that war is good for an economy. One respondent wrote:

    "Why did [Franklin D.] Roosevelt want the war [World War II] so badly? He wanted it for the same reason every American president since that time has wanted a war, and that is to prevent the US economy from slipping deeper and deeper into economic depression. Counting the Cold War, the United States has been in a continual state of war for the past 60 years, and there is no end in sight. Without war, I do not believe our economy can survive."

    The people who write me to this effect seem to hate that "fact." They would prefer that war not be a plus for an economy – but, nevertheless, they think it is. This belief has led many of these people to feel hopeless because they think that, on top of all the other difficulties of opposing war, they are opposing something that makes Americans better off. If I thought that, I would feel hopeless too. Fortunately, it's not true. The actual fact is that any war, even a war that is justified, has substantial costs.

    Imagine an economy whose government spends 2 percent of its GDP on its military. (On average, the world's governments spend just under 2 percent of their countries' GDP on the military, and the U.S. government spends about 4 percent.) Then, imagine that the government suddenly gets into a war and raises military spending to 7 percent of national income. How does that affect people in that country?

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  11. Ripley Valued Senior Member

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    Well, look at it this way: should humanity continue to progress as a mule chasing a carrot dangling from a stick?
     
  12. halo07guy Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, but the technollogy that is developed can help billions. Look at the atomic bomb. It was designed as the most powerful weapon on Earth. Now its the most efficent and reliable form of power in the world. Or jets, again designed as a weapon of war. They now transport millions each day. In other words, you kill millions to help billions.
     
  13. wanneszinnig God doesn't work 2day Registered Senior Member

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    from an economic point of view YES...from a human point of view NO...
     
  14. Repo Man Valued Senior Member

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    The space program has had similar unintended benefits for technological development, while not requiring the routine dismemberment and slaughter of war. War is great for the corporations that supply the military. Not so great for the countless numbers that are maimed or killed, or who survive only to be crippled by PTSD, and/or return to lives disrupted by their long absence, wives who have divorced them, children who grew up without them, jobs that they have lost, or at least promotions that have gone to others instead of them....

    That we humans still resort to mass slaughter to settle our differences so readily is one of the qualities that makes it difficult for me to understand the inflated opinion that so many still have about our species. If we were created in God's image, that god is a petty vindictive bastard, utterly unworthy of worship.
     
  15. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    war is never good. never ever.....unless it against cockroaches.
     
  16. draqon Banned Banned

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    War is mostly Good, it brings change ... life exists for change.
     
  17. maxg Registered Senior Member

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    The whole problem with this argument is that you could do the same without killing anyone. Yes, spending money helps improve technology and may better lives. So what? The gov't spent money on the space program in the 60s and in fact funds all kinds of research in all kinds of fields. You have to be pretty delusional to assume that war is necessary for expenditure.
     
  18. draqon Banned Banned

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    people are not machines...without force (WAR) they would not change as needed.
     
  19. Sock puppet path GRRRRRRRRRRRR Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah check out these ladies rejoicing over the fact that their sons have changed from alive to dead

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  20. draqon Banned Banned

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    victims of War are those who could not adapt.
     
  21. Sock puppet path GRRRRRRRRRRRR Valued Senior Member

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    You are a frikkin' moron.
     
  22. draqon Banned Banned

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    perhaps
     
  23. Sock puppet path GRRRRRRRRRRRR Valued Senior Member

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    No doubt about it.
     

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