VIP - The Evidence Of a Decadent Culture (or/and System...)

Discussion in 'Ethics, Morality, & Justice' started by TruthSeeker, Jul 11, 2002.

  1. Riomacleod Registered Senior Member

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    Ok, I simply can't let this go on any longer.

    Truthseeker, rippleofdeath:
    Why is it so terrible that an institution which exists for the sole purpose of collecting money would not give someone who gives them ALOT of money more prominence than someone who doesn't?

    Secondly, if Bill Gates needed a kidney from you, and someone you Loved needed one at the same time, who would you give it to? If you asked a million people, I bet that if people HAD to choose, the number would be well over 80%. Probably somewhere near 99%. So, in that manner, I would think that Gates really wouldn't be a VIP in this particular case. I think it's pretty obvious that our values drive our lives and that is the important part of the equation.

    SECONDLY, why exactly are rich people necessarily bad parents? What makes them inherently bad people?

    The reason why the tickets are SO expensive is because the money goes to charities!! That's the whole point! The people who go to these things raise hundreds of thousands of dollars for charities. So, yes, when you go door to door in a "rich" neighborhood you might not pick up as much money, because they've given $10k to a charity already. I mean, honestly, do you REALLY think that people are going to put $1000 into a can that you are carrying around? Wouldn't it be safer to just cut a check to a charity and send it in?

    Come on, really.
     
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  3. ripleofdeath Registered Senior Member

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    yo dude

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    you need to take me literally
    rather than trying to read between the lines
    there is soo much lying and deciet these days it is hard enough to explain the truth little-own the fringe of reality - as some might view it.

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    SECONDLY, why exactly are rich people necessarily bad parents? What makes them inherently bad people?
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    you ask 2 different questions and refer them to your error in reading that i was being one sided.

    i was outlining a set of events!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    you have now taken a position of trying to defend wealth
    in a debate on philosophical grounds!!!!!!!!!!!

    this is quite obstructive!!!! to the important points.
    (maybe not your intension)
    I QUOTE MYSELF

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    BUT
    and it is a big BUT...
    the war of etrision/poverty and ill health kills off alot of the
    "poor bad parents" as well and mostly of, the poor children
    where in the situation of the "rich bad parents" the child abuses the power of money to gain more power.
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    IN REGARD TO BILL GATES AND HIS IMPENDING KIDNEY AS YOU REFER
    he has enough money to buy one!!!!!!
    someone will go out and kill someone if they have to to get one for him.... if the price is rite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    WHAT SOME PEOPLE WILL DO FOR MONEY IS ONLY LIMITED BY THE IMAGINATION OF THE PAYING PARTY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



    SO HOW MANY PEOPLE KILL THIER OWN FAMILY MEMBERS???
    40 % of all homiceds i think the figure is!!!


    so hence...
    where is your base for such idiolgy???
    the firm ???
    now i know your a b soup
    next time wont you
    tell the group

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    or
    please expand your theory.


    "why do they put cushions on the walls"???

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  5. ~The_Chosen~ Registered Senior Member

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    If you cannot see my through my math that is oh so logical...take Calculus and learn about limits, continuity, etc.

    Then come talk to me.

    Wealthy people are wealthy for one good reason, they are unique and think different.

    Not all weathly people are like Uncle Scrooge, rich, greedy, egotistical...and all that bullshit.

    I'm sick of this, don't be jealous of the wealthy.

    There are bad and good poor people too...

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    You that say some don't value life, take a look at the math. 1 life < 1,000,000 lives

    Understand? Open your mind for God's sake.

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  7. ripleofdeath Registered Senior Member

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    hey all

    The Chosen....
    do we have a language barrier???

    you have outlined one of my main points yet scrabbled it with something else

    most wealth is inherited
    thus the family will feel the need to protect its wealth as a
    family value.

    most people who make millions from invension and such like
    are more easily swayed by materilism
    is materialism bad???
    im not going to commit to that arguement!

    my point that i will try and outline more precisely without the flashy sparkles
    is
    if someone is bad (at heart) they will most likely only GROW with the help of money
    to spread that on others
    where-as IF someone is POOR they have less ability to affect people around them with thier badness....as such.

    does that make more sence???
    i hope so
    i see no need to get ruffled over debating/textulising in a debating format

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    groove on all

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