Venezuelan War With Colombia

Discussion in 'World Events' started by krokah, Dec 8, 2009.

  1. krokah Registered Senior Member

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    It looks like Hugo Chavez is getting ready to expand his empire. Is the man nuts. Buying tanks and arms from Russia and building up his army. Its just propagand to cover his "King of South America" that he says that Colombia is getting ready to invade his country with the United States as their partner. Lets see what happens over the next 12 months.....
     
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  3. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    He's going nowhere. The man is an idiot but not a total fool. As you said it's just propaganda/bluster to get his people lined up him and make them think they have a common enemy. Exact same thing N. Korea and other low-life dictators have done since the beginning of time.
     
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  5. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    The same was said of Hitler, and look where that took the world.
     
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  7. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Chavez is a dildo but even you got to admit he no Hitler, if he starts a war with Colombia there is little chance he could win, the USA would have to stomp him then... and get the precious, precious, oil.
     
  8. StrawDog disseminated primatemaia Valued Senior Member

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    Interesting, wherever the US goes setting up military shop, conflict is sure to follow. And interestingly, its always the victim that gets the blame. Funny old world eh?
     
  9. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Cause and effect is being conflicted in your case, as Columbia asked for US assistance to thwart Chavez not the other way around of Chavez threatening Columbia simply because of US assistance. Chavez is now threatening Columbia because he can't get FARC to take it over, the fact the US is providing assistance to Columbia is merely an excuse. Chavez wants a return to the Gran Columbia as part of his Bolivarian ideals
     
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  10. StrawDog disseminated primatemaia Valued Senior Member

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    Its common knowledge who the US client states are. These bases are bought with hard cash not friendships. No surprises there. Chaves is not the only voice opining the destabilizing effect of US bases in the area. As we can see from the raising tensions.

    And of course there is a clear track record of US shenanigans in SA to learn from and rightly cause cynicism.
    Good for him.
     
  11. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Interesting, wherever the Russian go, setting up military shop, conflict is sure to follow. And interestingly, its always the victim that gets the blame. Funny old world eh?

    Interesting, wherever the Chinese, go, setting up military shop, conflict is sure to follow. And interestingly, its always the victim that gets the blame. Funny old world eh?

    Interesting, wherever the Muslims on Jihad go, setting up military shop, conflict is sure to follow. And interestingly, its always the victim that gets the blame. Funny old world eh?

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  12. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    You didn't read a word I said did you? Chaves was destabilizing it before the US was, the fact the US is intervene now he is using as an excuse.

    The USA crimes is not a valid excuse for other's crimes.

    Oh so you think it good when Hiltar did that same with Europe to restore a Germanic ideal?
     
  13. Read-Only Valued Senior Member

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    Given your attitude in this matter and in other posts I've seen you make, I'm simply curious about something. Do you feel the U.S. should close ALL the military bases in every foreign country? Withdraw from NATO and leave all of Europe and UK open to whatever comes their way? And do the same in South America also - so that egotistical little despots like Chaves can do whatever they please there?
     
  14. StrawDog disseminated primatemaia Valued Senior Member

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    Pardon my zeal. I would be interested to follow your sources in arriving at that conclusion.
    I agree. But what are the crimes?
    Apples with watermelons. No doubt you are familiar with Chaves`s clear success in reducing poverty, reducing illiteracy via free education and free health care?
     
  15. StrawDog disseminated primatemaia Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, why not?
    Its funny you should mention that. The US history of overthrowing legitimate governments and installing despots in South America is legendary. :m:
     
  16. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    What Chavez and FARC go way back, simply google it.

    Being a dictator that has centralized his government and media under him, imprisoned, punished and threated all decent of him.

    Sure at the cost of the middle class.
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6186990.stm
    http://www.venezuelanalysis.com/analysis/98

    So the people have "traded freedom for bread." So Chevez is a popularist, so he hated Bush, still does not make him not a dictator.
     

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