User infractions - yes or no?

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the mods just reverse the infractions....whenever they please...so its all useless.

 

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I voted to abstain so my biased opinion doesn't affect the numbers.

I would rather only moderators and above have the option.

 

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You are due a vote just like any other forum member. Just because you're a mod doesn't mean you give up your user rights.


As for me.
I vote no.
I have a million and one arguments for voting no and to persuade others to vote no as well, but I doubt that many will vote any other way.
Perhaps I'll come back with an empassioned plea should circumstances require it.

 

Well I do think I have the right to vote "no," however this forum isn't as busy as I would like for me to cast my vote. We'll probably get 20 votes or so within these 7 days that the poll is up.. so one vote could mean a lot.

It's just my choice and I am fine with it. I stated that I would like to keep the infraction system and only allow moderators to use it, but I think it's up to the regular members decide our direction.

 

Retain, but only if users are not allowed to deem that ordinary users infract, only with regard to the moderators, and without the reversals.

As with ordinary democracy, effect the right to vote out of office.

Respect for authority would then have to earned by best example.

 

What the hell did you say?

Oh.
I get it.
You're saying that infractions are only to be given to the moderators...
That's an incredibly stupid idea.
No surprise it comes from the King of Spite.

Sauna.
We all know you have this huge chip on your shoulder.
But voting mods out of office is another matter altogether.

If you have any specific complaints about moderation why don't you start a thread? Rather than vague and meaningless innuendos?

In that thread, perhaps you could define what you think is the horizon of 'authority'.
I suspect that you feel as Tor does that any time a moderator speaks he is exhibiting authority.

Anyway. That's off-topic for this thread.
Perhaps you care to begin another?

 

I voted to retain, with possible changes, (details in thread) exactly as the Poll invited.

Authority is of course the power to determine, adjudicate, or otherwise settle issues or disputes, the right to control, command, or determine, a power or right delegated or given:

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Authority

 

Yes.
Quite right on that.
I belatedly realized what your first sentence meant.
So. I do apologize on that.
I edited that part into my post. But didn't delete the rest.

I still maintain that the idea is stupid. But that's another matter altogether.

As to 'authority'.
...
No.
That's another topic and I won't get into it in here.

 

its not like I want the infraction to go away...but its just the mods keep on reversing infractions I do...which are justified...so its all useless

 

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Abolish it and return to moderators deciding bans alone.

The Infraction system is redundant.

There is already a report button by which to bring to the attention of the "authorities" anything which is deemed improper by the membership.

 

Trouble is that there are no positive sanctions in this system.

 

the only reason we really need it is to stop spammers, anything else can be reported to the mods and dealt with.

actually, i want to change my vote now.

 

Keep it but modify the nanny option - "Inappropriate Language"

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- so that we can penalise posts that are "Boring, Too Long or Overly Convoluted".

Nah, only kidding. Bin it, it's rubbish.

Apart from that bit. Can we just keep that bit?

 

I believe moderators ought to be victim of user infractions at a lower-level of severity. Otherwise, I am fine with the continuation of user infractions.

 

Retain it, but change the God-awful icon.

 

Why not then insist that reasons be written already with infractions declared? With no valid reason annul, end of story, a mere technical triviality..

If not fit to powder the bottoms of babies alive before you were born, quit, because patronisation is in essence what it is. There is no getting way from that, nor be surprised if some wander off, reluctant to stoop so far as to let their bottoms be powdered by some so immature.

Nor the hope to escape from that.

Let he or she blessed with absolute equanimity cast the first stone, and then may we kneel to pray to their glory.

And when a moderator who presumes to lecture us on etiquette fails to respond with as much as a polite PM in return, what then?

That at least is to be said for the empowerment: It amends deliberate ignorance.

 

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I think it should be kept - I have found that mods, for whatever reason, do not respond to reports .... thus I have experience of it tightening up the looseness of threads - for instance if someone has a chip on their shoulder tends not to go out for an all out mud slinging match after receiving one or two infractions (and even then, they only score maybe 2-7 infraction points, so its not like they actually get banned) - the result is that they actually work more in line with the format of debate or they just don't bother with the attempt to sabotage one's posts - even the anticipation of receiving an infraction is sufficient to make many an ad hommer exhibit self control

The only problem is that if someone gets an infraction, even a two pointer, they tend to take it as a personal offense, and use the infraction system to get even - I recommend that if a person abuses the infraction system (posts 4 or more infractions that have been reversed within one week) they should score 19 infraction points - hopefully this would lighten the mod's workload a bit

I feel that the difference between having and not having an infraction system is the difference between having and not having an atmosphere civil enough for intelligent discussion (Sciforums - flame grilled discussion???)