US warships frightened by Iranian boats; War of Terror; US foreign policy, etc...

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  1. S.A.M.

    S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    S.A.M., Jan 8, 2008
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    I hate to say it Buffalo, but ditto.
     
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    Yep. He needed a Reagan to fix his shit.
     
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    SpAM, another appeal to emotion, yes, I am sorry for that girl, but the video from the drone doesn't support her version of story, the video doesn't lie, and I have questions about the video that was made with her?,

     
    Buffalo Roam, Jan 8, 2008
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    Capt. Jeffrey Dinsmore, the intelligence officer for the battalion, testified that “it's fairly well established through the (unmanned aerial vehicle) coverage that there were insurgents in those homes

    Lt. Col. Paul Ware, the Inspecting Officer for several of the enlisted Marines, recommended on July 11, 2007 that LCpl. Justin Sharratt be cleared of these charges. Ware stated, "[t]he government version is unsupported by independent evidence... To believe the government version of facts is to disregard clear and convincing evidence to the contrary."[45] The charges against Sharratt were dropped on August 9th.[9]

    Article 32 hearings for LCpl. Stephen Tatum began July 16, and for SSgt. Frank Wuterich begins in August.[46] The investigating officer recommended charges be dropped against Tatum.[10]
     
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  9. S.A.M.

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    "Insurgents"

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ykcEIb8gXqg
     
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    SAM you also need to tell the other side of the story. Americans are doing a lot of good too. See this case of a boy who was set afire by street thugs in Iraq. Average Americans donated hughe sums to pay for the medical treatment of this disfigured boy. And this is just one of many stories of American generousity. You seem to be focused just on the bad things that happen in war.
    http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/09/12/youssif.arrives/index.html
     
    joepistole, Jan 8, 2008
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  11. S.A.M.

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    If I kill your whole family and say sorry to you, what is your response?

    If they had not gone into Iraq on false pretences, he would not have been burned.
     
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    In that article, it was not the Americans who injured the boy. It was an Persian or Arab act of violence against a young child. They doused the child in gasoline and set him on fire. What kind of monster would do that.
    The child was teased by his neighbors. His family went to the Americans. And it was thousands of Americans who donated money to bring he and his family to the United States so that we could help heal is physical and emotional wounds. And this is not a unique story. His injuries had nothing to do with the United States invasion or occupation of Iraq. But the healing of his wounds does.
     
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  15. Bells

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    And your Navy is sitting 12 miles off their coastline, armed to the teeth. Which do you view as being more threatening? A few little boats and taunts or 3 massive warships armed to the eyeballs which could destroy your coastline and cause a large amount of damage to your country and populace?

    You do know that is how many in the world feels about Bush, don't you?:spank:

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    Do I agree with this situation? To be honest, I am surprised the US did not open fire. Were they correct in their reaction to the boats? Yes. Small boats can cause a hell of a lot of damage if packed with explosives. Were the Iranians in the wrong? In part yes. The US ships were in what is deemed to be international waters. Do they (the Iranians) feel threatened? Yes. I would imagine most States would feel threatened by having a fleet of heavily armed ships sitting off their coastline while that fleets President slyly threatens you constantly in the media and by its actions. But at the end of the day, you will be deemed to be in the wrong if you take it upon yourself to threaten ships in international waters. Had the US ships strayed into Iranian waters, then this situation would be entirely different.

    Had the US not been there for the reason they are there, for example, if the US out of the blue decided to park its warships off the coast of Iran, then they would be deemed to be the aggressors. In this instance, while their action can be deemed to be aggressive, I think the fact they did not open fire on those boats, would have to be admirable under the circumstances.
     
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  16. S.A.M.

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    I'm very glad they helped him. But does that make up for all the children they shot or orphaned?

    http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article4408.htm

    http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/03/28/1080331001795.html

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,,1735748,00.html

    The US troops are engaged in an illegal war. Killing civilians. For shame.
     
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    How about the thousands of children shot, blown up, and orphaned by your POS Terrorist?, guess who is taking care of them, Americans, all of this free of charge, paid for by American generosity, you Bigot.


    FOXNews.com - GI Saves Iraqi Boy in Long-Shot Adoption - Local ...
    GI Saves Iraqi Boy in Long-Shot Adoption. Tuesday, December 25, 2007. E-Mail; Print; Digg This! del.icio.us. AP. Scott Southworth, right, with his adopted ...
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,318237,00.html







    Inju
     
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  18. S.A.M.

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    Are you comparing the United States Army to terrorists?

    I had no idea that was the ideal you were living up to.

    Makes sense now, though, especially the cluster bombs :scratchin:

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    Razzaq Kazem al-Khafaj grieves over the bodies of his children in Hilla in the southern province of Babylon. Khafaj lost 15 members (including six children) of his family as his car was bombed by coalition helicopters while fleeing al-Haidariyeh towards Babylon.(AFP/Karim Sahib)

    http://www.ccmep.org/2003_articles/Iraq/040203_children_killed_and_maimed_in_cl.htm
     
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    No I am calling your bastard brother of terror, terrorist, and you a Bigot and war is hell.


    Mr. Moreno-Ocampo rejected complaints activists had filed with the ICC accusing the U.S. of atrocities in Iraq. "The death of civilians during an armed conflict, no matter how grave and regrettable, does not in itself constitute a war crime," Mr. Moreno-Ocampo wrote, absent such factors as the deliberate targeting of civilians.
     
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  20. S.A.M.

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    And yet you think murder in the best intrst of your country is fine. Even when the murder involves three hundred thousand civilians in Japan or a million in Iraq or a 1000 in Lebanon or <we don't do body counts> Afghanistan or all the people you PERSONALLY shot in Vietnam

    So. Who. Is. The. Terrorist?
     
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  21. Buffalo Roam

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    You are, and a flaming Bigot, to boot.


    War is hell.

    Mr. Moreno-Ocampo rejected complaints activists had filed with the ICC accusing the U.S. of atrocities in Iraq. "The death of civilians during an armed conflict, no matter how grave and regrettable, does not in itself constitute a war crime," Mr. Moreno-Ocampo wrote, absent such factors as the deliberate targeting of civilians.
     
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  22. S.A.M.

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    And you are a gun for hire. Even if it is a one year old at the other end.

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