US soldier kills puppy, the whole world gets upset

Discussion in 'Ethics, Morality, & Justice' started by Syzygys, Mar 4, 2008.

  1. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    If the killing was unrelated to the normal warfare, yes.
    If that was a baby in his hands I would be just as pissed off.

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  3. John99 Banned Banned

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    in the larger scheme of things it is related but beyond the scope of this thread.

    how you, can tell the dog is real or alive is beyond my own ability. still, in some countries millions of dogs are eaten every day and if a dog is being a pest they think nothing of killing the animal.:shrug:
     
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  5. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    Agreed. Keeping dogs as a food source seems weird to us but is in essence no different from us keeping cows and the likes for food.
    The point here is that the animal was killed for fun, or at the very least it was a 'necessary' killing which they enjoyed in a disgusting way.

    In the larger scheme of things nothing really matters. But we keep to our morals don't we ? They are the building blocks of society.
     
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  7. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    I don't have an argument. I don't always have to be right.

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  8. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    I would hope you were at least convinced you are right, why else enter the discussion ? :shrug:
     
  9. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    I don't know that I'm right. I never said "I'm right, you're wrong" I entered a discussion, not an argument. Are they the same to you?
     
  10. John99 Banned Banned

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    Well i am just pointing out that it is hard to say with any degree of certainty that the dog was alive or even real. Stuffed animals are very common and also very realistic, the sounds could easily be added in by anyone with a computer. But the truth is that many people dont view dogs or any animals being killed as that big of a deal. Does it really make all that much of a difference than someone taking a gun and shooting a rabbit or a squirrel? For me i cant even look at pictures of dogs hung up in markets and people eating them but to many people it is just common.
     
  11. shichimenshyo Caught in the machine Registered Senior Member

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    In all fairness that guy is a real cocksucker, but there are much much ...mcuh worse things occuring in Iraq and afghanistan every day. If this makes people sick then I dont see how the hell we can even be over there at all.
     
  12. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    I think you are confused as to what sort of 'argument' I was referring to.
    Argument: a statement, reason, or fact for or against a point: This is a strong argument in favor of her theory.
     
  13. John99 Banned Banned

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    Also, on closer examination (not justifying) the initial release of the animal and force exerted would have produced an initial loud yelping sound. This was not present in the video and the yelping sound level remains constant, in essence this is not consistent with Doppler effect.

    Finally, the dog flew pretty far and the force exhibited by the marine was such that looks inconsistent with the weight of a real puppy.
     
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  14. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Thank You! It may be real but something about it looks REALLY odd to me.
     
  15. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    I'm assuming it's real. All my statements have to be viewed in that light.
    If it's a hoax it's just a sick joke, nothing more.

    There is no difference. I'm not upset because it happens to be an animal that people keep as a pet.
    And that truth is an awful truth. It's one of the biggest flaws of humanity.
     
  16. clusteringflux Version 1. OH! Valued Senior Member

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    I thought the same thing cuz it went sailing. I instantly thought ' Wow that guys must be really strong to throw a 10-20lb dog what appears to be 30 ft at least"
     
  17. clusteringflux Version 1. OH! Valued Senior Member

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    And,No, I've never thrown puppies for fun.
     
  18. shichimenshyo Caught in the machine Registered Senior Member

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    My cat is bigger than that dog and it only weighs 11 pounds, if i wanted to I could hurl my cat pretty damn far without that much effort, also if the dog is flying off a cliff the distance may be somewhat distored.
     
  19. Enmos Valued Senior Member

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    I really don't see or hear anything unnatural in the video, look real to me.
    Also the dog doesn't fly that far, is falling off a cliff. He threw the puppy maybe 10m.
     
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    The only way to get a perspective on the distance from a video is to determine the time time it take for the object to land. The fact it is a small cliff (very small) doesnt have any bearing on the distance. Like i said, to me it looks more like a very light object considering how far it went and all he does is bring his arm back like he is throwing a small ball.

    I find it hard to believe that a puppy would just stay ibn the same position for the entire duration. No movement of legs, mouth or eyes pretty much is not how a living creature would react. I am just saying that to me it doesnt look right, not defending this person in any way.
     
  21. whitewolf asleep under the juniper bush Registered Senior Member

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    I recognise that it is not our place to judge actions of soldiers. That is reserved for military courts, which are conducted by military officials for a reason.

    Puppies are killed in animal shelters in your city all the time. Kittens, too. I strongly doubt that you care.
     
  22. gendanken Ruler of All the Lands Valued Senior Member

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    Its precisely becuase they cannot that they are perfect for battle.
    A soldier's ignorance is the most powerful weapon we have.

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    Really?
    Is one of them a bored cat playing with her milk?


    Like you claiming to be a ~masochist narcissist~?

    Gelding.

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    Of course its our place!

    $200 billion dollars we've spent on Iraq and Afghanistan, close to 60% of our tax dollars going for defense and you think you've no say in it?

    You'd equate euthenasia with this man throwing a helpless pup off a cliff?

    And enjoying it?
     
  23. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, a little carbon dioxide, a small guillotine and its done. Beheading comes natural to me.

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