United Nations, veto power, and inefficiency

Discussion in 'World Events' started by Tiassa, Mar 27, 2003.

  1. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    It's a hell of a list. And it's worth giving some consideration in light of the heat the UN is taking. Doesn't change much in light of the current war, but give the UN a break. Anything remotely approaching democracy or participatory government requires good faith, something few players, if any, bring to the table; and good faith is something the US ought to lead the way with. We have the resources. We have the minds.

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  3. Jerrek Registered Senior Member

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    You're right, the USA is bad. We should immediately be kicked out of the U.N. I would support the U.N. completely in such a case. I think it would be a good thing.

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  5. Microzoft Registered Senior Member

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    I recall having already posted numerous messages on this particular issue, with links and facts. I’m just getting tired of repeating myself.

    But another good reason would be our bad contribution payment record.
     
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  7. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    Jerrek

    I'm tempted to ask who it is you're agreeing with (the Iraqi senior leadership, perhaps?) but it would be more appropriate to ask if you have anything substantial to contribute to this topic, or if your only point at Sciforums is disruption.

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  8. zechaeriah Registered Senior Member

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    i don't see anything wrong with what Jerrek posted.

    i totally agree.
     
  9. spookz Banned Banned

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    get used to it. almost every viewpoint that could be imagined/reference to some statistic, is probably buried somewhere in sciforums. shit goes in cycles in here. there is seldom anything new to say. the most one can do is put a spin on it.

    *overly pessimistic? not true?

    ps: i saw the list here in sciforums not too long ago and it just supports a point i made previously that the un would function effectively if the us did not try to undermine its authority at every turn

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  10. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    Minimalism?

    Zecheriah

    Noted. Thank you for wasting as few words as possible.

    I won't bother to ask you to justify Jerrek's silly post. I'll be happy to wait for Jerrek to take a swing at explaining what he's responding to and who he's agreeing with.

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  11. zechaeriah Registered Senior Member

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    Re: Minimalism?

    i'm not trying to justify anybody else's posting, they are responsible for themselves. speaking of responsibility, all i'm saying is if the U.S. would just act as a responsible nation instead of waging war all over the world, it'd be a better place to live.
     
  12. Jerrek Registered Senior Member

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    What more is there to say? The U.S. is acting irresponsibly according to a large part of the world, and if the U.N. wants to kick the U.S. for that, I'd support them. I'd even support it if the General Assembly somehow override any veto by the U.S. in the Security Council.

    Another reason to kick the U.S. out would be because fees are not paid to the U.N.

    *grin*

    Btw, I *want* the U.S. out of the Useless Nations.
     
  13. Microzoft Registered Senior Member

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    Junior, if your judgment is as qualified as your knowledge. You can automatically qualify for office.

    “I'd even support it if the General Assembly somehow overrides any veto by the U.S. in the Security Council.”

    That is just not possible if you read the UN SC chapter. But then again, that’s too much to your modest intellect and a waste of time. Right?

    Also, the UN is far more then the Security Council, they are maintaining hundreds of projects from proliferation, development support to health and humanitarian issues.

    You don’t need to read to make up your mind. You may consider to just read, ignore and don’t waste your time.

    Otherwise, the day that life places some responsibilities on your hand, ..you’re going to be dangerous!
     
  14. Jerrek Registered Senior Member

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    Read:

    "I'd even support it if the General Assembly somehow overrides any veto by the U.S. in the Security Council"

    "somehow" being the keyword here. I know it isn't possible according to the charter, but "somehow" leaves some possibilities.
     
  15. Microzoft Registered Senior Member

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    I see, you mean like rewrite the chapter and bylaws on veto so that they can accommodate for the understanding of your mental possibilities?

    "mental possibilities" being the keyword here for you!
     
  16. spookz Banned Banned

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    i bet these punk kids are having the time of their lives when they get older folks to respond to them in here.

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  17. Jerrek Registered Senior Member

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    WINSTON CHURCHILL said:

    If you're not a socialist when you're 20 you have no heart, and if you're not a capitalist when you're 40, you have no brains.
    Now back to your medication, grandpa...

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  18. spookz Banned Banned

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    why you cheeky little monkey! i outta........go to your room!

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  19. Microzoft Registered Senior Member

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    I have to say, I love your humor.

    At first I thought, ..ho ho, the puppy is going to another tree, and then came your remarks. I tell you, I better dry my keyboard now.

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  20. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    Zechaeriah

    Fair enough, but I'm just really confused about who he was agreeing with.

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