Dear Members, I thought it appropriate that perhaps since it appears any contributions that I might attempt to make in other discussions are apparently going to spiral into diatribes and over run other members questions, that I would open this topic line. Now if that should happen I will be prepared to meet that person here to pursue the discussion to a resolution without cluttering up the board. Thanks for those few that have been helpful here, as you can see there is a long road ahead with these guys. And to keep this fair. 1 - Should the person filling what I believe to be a false arguement fail to come here to resolve the issue, I will announce that person defaulted his position to the disagreement. Don't want certain people to think they can push me off of the board by just making some off the cuff remark. 2 - I will also announce that I have yielded or defaulted my position. I am infact flexiable but I will not roll over when the arguement for your victory is "I am right because you are wrong" or because "you don't understand". Those are self promoting positions and have no resolution.