Understanding Depression

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  1. Chatha big brown was screwed up Registered Senior Member

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    I don't know where the word "depression" came from, it just cropped up overnight. It started in the 90's by the drug driven media industry, it was a replacement for "sad". They noticed "sad" was too regular a word so they invented "depression". Now, stupid people everywhere are running to the doctors to treat their depression. Tell me, if you are happy forever, does that do anybody any good? Yes, we feel pain, thats part of the life. Pain is a result of our ultra sensitive nervous system, which tells us when something is going on, like when your 2 year old little brother stabs you on the feet with a sharp pencil. Without this mechanism, we wouldn't be able to feel, which would be a lot worse than...(chuckes)...being sad. Ever seen the movie "equilibrium"? My advice? Shit happens!
     
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  3. lucifers angel same shit, differant day!! Registered Senior Member

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    but hey lucky for us, we dont live in the world of that film!! and depressed people are not stupid, far from it in fact!! my husband isnt stupid!! and neither is my son!!! and i have been so DEPRESSED that i cant feal anything. i ahvent been able to cry and i ahvent been able to manage with daily routines, but after taking medication i am now ok
     
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  5. Chatha big brown was screwed up Registered Senior Member

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    My advice? I read your bio and it says you like tattoos. I hope you don't have any because it can cause...and I cant believe I am saying this...depression. Erase your tattoo, having a permanent mark on your skin is not healthy. I don't know what esle to tell you, if medication works, then go ahead but try not to abuse it.
     
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  7. lucifers angel same shit, differant day!! Registered Senior Member

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    yes i have 6 tattoos!! and i dont regret any one of them, no i dont abuse the medication and i only ever take it when my Dr says perhaps its for the best.
     
  8. Carcano Valued Senior Member

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    I believe it is mostly biochemical with some psychological influences.

    On the biological side, a great book on the subject is 'The Way Up From Down' by Dr. Priscilla Slagle.

    The whole book is available for download on her site:
    http://www.thewayup.com/upfrmdwn.htm

    This is another good summary:
    http://www.thenutritionreporter.com/Sunshine_for_the_Mind.html
     
    Last edited: Jun 29, 2007
  9. darksidZz Valued Senior Member

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    I finally understand depression, it's caused by other people!!!
     
  10. Yorda Registered Senior Member

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    depression is the same thing as sadness. if you want to be sad, just think about sad things, try to understand sad things like depression, and write about sad things on a sad thread like this.

    but if you want to be happy, think happy thoughts and ignore bad thoughts. it's so simple. feelings are just thoughts we think for a long time. we can reprogram our feelings, beliefs, reality, everything, by changing our thoughts.
     
  11. lucifers angel same shit, differant day!! Registered Senior Member

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    that is so wrong!! sadness can come and go, depression (and people who suffer from it) cannot just think happy thoughts and be happy, they are not %100 sure why certain people get depression but the treat it well, it is thought of to be a chemical inbalance in the brain, and there is nothing the person can do about it.

    depression is more prone in people who have had mothers who had depression and who have had a very bad upbringing
     
  12. Yorda Registered Senior Member

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    wrong!! stronger forms of sadness like depression can't come and go.

    psychiatrists/therapists are stupid. they don't know that people are sad because something bad happened to them, and then they make people sick by creating new diseases/words like depression which is actually just a feeling.

    feelings are never caused by chemicals, chemicals are just the effects of thoughts and feelings.

    keep thinking that you can't do anything and you can't do anything.
     
  13. lucifers angel same shit, differant day!! Registered Senior Member

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    they are not stupid people at all my sons see a psychiatrists on a regular basis, my son has bi polar disorder mixxed with otehr illness's and he has to take a high dose of Prazac just to keep the depression at bay for a day, i ask you if they are not caused by chemicals then why can prazoac and other forms of anti depression tablets help those people with the condition, it is a very VERY difficult condition to live with and you can even get a benefit for the condition if yu have it severely aswell.
     
  14. Yorda Registered Senior Member

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    bipolar disorder is just another word for sadness.

    drugs like lsd, heroin, peyote and antidepressants can free people from their sadness only temporarily because the negative thoughts keep recreating the sadness.

    drugs can have a negative effect on people if they take them for a long time, so it's better to fight the sadness with thoughts until you realize that you have no reason to be sad. you only imagined that you had a reason.

    feelings like sadness and happiness are imaginary.
     
  15. darksidZz Valued Senior Member

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    Just like me

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    I feel better at work than at home now, I would stay here all night if I could just to not go home, how sad is that my friendz :C
     
  16. one_raven God is a Chinese Whisper Valued Senior Member

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    You couldn't be more wrong.
     
  17. lucifers angel same shit, differant day!! Registered Senior Member

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    What Causes Bipolar Disorder?
    Scientists are learning about the possible causes of bipolar disorder through several kinds of studies. Most scientists now agree that there is no single cause for bipolar disorder—rather, many factors act together to produce the illness.

    Because bipolar disorder tends to run in families, researchers have been searching for specific genes—the microscopic "building blocks" of DNA inside all cells that influence how the body and mind work and grow—passed down through generations that may increase a person's chance of developing the illness. But genes are not the whole story. Studies of identical twins, who share all the same genes, indicate that both genes and other factors play a role in bipolar disorder. If bipolar disorder were caused entirely by genes, then the identical twin of someone with the illness would always develop the illness, and research has shown that this is not the case. But if one twin has bipolar disorder, the other twin is more likely to develop the illness than is another sibling.6

    In addition, findings from gene research suggest that bipolar disorder, like other mental illnesses, does not occur because of a single gene.7 It appears likely that many different genes act together, and in combination with other factors of the person or the person's environment, to cause bipolar disorder. Finding these genes, each of which contributes only a small amount toward the vulnerability to bipolar disorder, has been extremely difficult. But scientists expect that the advanced research tools now being used will lead to these discoveries and to new and better treatments for bipolar disorder.

    Brain-imaging studies are helping scientists learn what goes wrong in the brain to produce bipolar disorder and other mental illnesses.8,9 New brain-imaging techniques allow researchers to take pictures of the living brain at work, to examine its structure and activity, without the need for surgery or other invasive procedures. These techniques include magnetic resonance imaging (MRI), positron emission tomography (PET), and functional magnetic resonance imaging (fMRI). There is evidence from imaging studies that the brains of people with bipolar disorder may differ from the brains of healthy individuals. As the differences are more clearly identified and defined through research, scientists will gain a better understanding of the underlying causes of the illness, and eventually may be able to predict which types of treatment will work most effectively.

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    Treatment of Bipolar Depression
    Research has shown that people with bipolar disorder are at risk of switching into mania or hypomania, or of developing rapid cycling, during treatment with antidepressant medication.15 Therefore, "mood-stabilizing" medications generally are required, alone or in combination with antidepressants, to protect people with bipolar disorder from this switch. Lithium and valproate are the most commonly used mood-stabilizing drugs today. However, research studies continue to evaluate the potential mood-stabilizing effects of newer medications.

    Atypical antipsychotic medications, including clozapine (Clozaril®), olanzapine (Zyprexa®), risperidone (Risperdal®), quetiapine (Seroquel®), and ziprasidone (Geodon®), are being studied as possible treatments for bipolar disorder. Evidence suggests clozapine may be helpful as a mood stabilizer for people who do not respond to lithium or anticonvulsants.16 Other research has supported the efficacy of olanzapine for acute mania, an indication that has recently received FDA approval.17 Olanzapine may also help relieve psychotic depression.18
    If insomnia is a problem, a high-potency benzodiazepine medication such as clonazepam (Klonopin®) or lorazepam (Ativan®) may be helpful to promote better sleep. However, since these medications may be habit-forming, they are best prescribed on a short-term basis. Other types of sedative medications, such as zolpidem (Ambien®), are sometimes used instead.
    Changes to the treatment plan may be needed at various times during the course of bipolar disorder to manage the illness most effectively. A psychiatrist should guide any changes in type or dose of medication.
    Be sure to tell the psychiatrist about all other prescription drugs, over-the-counter medications, or natural supplements you may be taking. This is important because certain medications and supplements taken together may cause adverse reactions.
    To reduce the chance of relapse or of developing a new episode, it is important to stick to the treatment plan. Talk to your doctor if you have any concerns about the medications.


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    no i dont think its just anouther form of sadness!

    my son has bi polar disorder and he comes from loving and warm family,he is now mostly happy because of these medications that according to most people are a total waste of time, they are not a waste of time when the person taking them can now work well with school work, and do well in jobs, no one understands the condition until you have had it or got it, i had depression for years and still take medication for it now, and so does my husband, but my son did not get his bi polar from me or his father, depression and bi polar disorder are yes on the same spectrum but miles apart from each other.
     
  18. lucifers angel same shit, differant day!! Registered Senior Member

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    i felt like that for a long time and then i get my children sorted out properly by a decent doctor and now we are really happy, i am so happy at home now i cant belive that i felt so awful for such a long time
     
  19. Yorda Registered Senior Member

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    2 bad

    family is not everything

    if i was you i would understand you perfectly, and if you were me you would understand me perfectly.
     
  20. lucifers angel same shit, differant day!! Registered Senior Member

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    you cannot denie somthing when there is loads of documented proof about the condition!!

    and no i know family isnt everything but trust me it is a big part of someones life!!

    have you ever even been diagnosed with depression or are you just spouting about things you know nothing at all about and have had no dealing with?
     
  21. Yorda Registered Senior Member

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    don't believe everything you read.

    when a psychologist diagnoses you with a disorder, they actually give you the disorder. but they can't make you sick unless you're brainwashed by them.

    if a healthy person like me would go to a psychologists i would be diagnosed with all kinds of "disorders".

    http://www.encyclopediadramatica.com/Attention_deficit_hyperactivity_disorder
     
  22. lucifers angel same shit, differant day!! Registered Senior Member

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    [edit] ADD & Parents
    Most parents these days are fucking retarded and don't know how to discipline their children. This is because the liberal media tells them that spanking is wrong and drug corporations tell them that the reason their kids are so fucked up is not because of bad parenting, but because of, you guessed it, a disorder called ADD. The parents then spend money on Ritalin and Aderol and feed it to their kids fucking them up even more. Here's an example:

    i'm not fucking retarded, and i recent what that uneducated clot said about ADD, first thing being ADD mostely effects boys, has soon does ADHD!!

    or are you goinf to say they done excist either? because if you are read this:

    The person most likely to be diagnosed with ADD is a boy in grade school. If you are the parent of such a child, you would do well to consider whether your child’s behavior is actually within the normal range of behaviors for boys, especially if his problem is mostly at school.

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    Does ADHD Exist?
    But, hold on, here’s Gregory K. Fritz, MD, Bradley Hospital medical director and Hasbro Children’s Hospital child and family psychiatry director, making an equally emphatic statement to the contrary in his article ‘ADHD Is No Myth’.

    “Myth: ADHD does not exist as a real psychiatric disorder; rather, it is an unfortunate labeling of normal childhood behavior promulgated by ineffectual parents, incompetent teachers and the pharmaceutical industry.

    ADHD has received more scientific scrutiny than any other childhood psychiatric disorder since Charles Bradley’s initial 1937 report of effective treatment with stimulants of children at the Emma Pendleton Bradley Hospital in East Providence. ADHD has met the same standards as other major psychiatric disorders included in the American Psychiatric Association’s Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, 4th Edition. Studies have shown that experts can reliably agree on the diagnosis of individual patients with ADHD and can do so consistently. Better genetic evidence exists for ADHD than most other psychiatric disorders.”

    http://www.adhd-report.com/adhd/13_exist.html

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    ADHD and parenting

    It's a common misconception that ADHD is caused by 'bad' parenting. People who don't know anything about ADHD can be quick to blame the parents. But many experts think the causes of ADHD are largely genetic.

    Research shows it's far more likely that good parents trying to cope with the behaviour of a child with ADHD sometimes seem like 'bad' parents, because they can appear short-tempered, stressed, depressed and poor at disciplining their child.

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    it is so wring of that uneducated idiot to blame the perants of ADHD/ADD children, my sons take Equasym, and Strattera every day and before those medications they could not concentrate on school work and they were always in trouble, my youngest couldnt even go out to play in the playgroud with the other kids, but now he can and it is all down to the medication and good teaching, if ADHD/ADD does not exsist then how can special schools exsist to help such children? are we just jumping on a fashion thing with our kids and giving them medications?
     
  23. Yorda Registered Senior Member

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    being different is not the same thing as being sick. it's absolutely normal to be abnormal.

    of course because most things in school are boring, stupid, wrong and pointless. who could concentrate on something they don't even like?
     

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