UFOs (UAPs): Explanations?

Discussion in 'UFOs, Ghosts and Monsters' started by Magical Realist, Oct 10, 2017.

  1. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    What have you offered am I ignoring?
    Let's hear it.
     
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  3. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Don't you mean the "claims of UFO's"

    Gullibility and delusion know no bounds, they can affect anyone.
     
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  5. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Where did I say that?
     
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  7. river

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    What is bad science is ignoring knowledge because of a mindset .
     
  8. river

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    No the evidence .
     
  9. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Bad science is also discounting evidence to protect your own big sciency worldview.
     
  10. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    What evidence comes from all walks of life?
     
  11. river

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    Observations and experiences .
     
  12. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    (Fer cryin; out loud. We literally just went over this. Start back at post 3367.)
    You try to lump all sort of different reports into one as if they're all the same:

    "... a structured aerial wingless craft with illuminating lights performing extraordinary and even evasive flight maneuvers suggests highly intelligent intent, not some random fluke of nature...."
    "After thousands of eyewitness accounts repeating these same details about ufos, I'm pretty sure it's fact by now."

    You are conflating multiple accounts. You can't conflate do that until the have been resolved.

    Otherwise, one could just as easily argue "There are thousands of cryptids spotted all over the world. This can;t be a coincidence. Obviously they're all due to the same cause."

    No.
    Since they haven;t been resolved, that means
    1] It isn't even fact that there were real things to be sighted - unresolved means they can have been misidentifications of mundane critters, and
    2] there's no way to link them, since different ones may well have different solutions (some are misIDs, some are hoaxes, some will never be resolved, some might well be bona fide). You simply can't say "they're all the same thing".
    And you certainly can't say they're fact.
     
  13. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    God. Santa. Unicorns. Little people.

    River thinks we are ignoring incontrovertible evidence of these things, since so many people talk about them.
     
  14. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Nobody is discounting evidence.

    Everybody is discounting your bad science and drawing hasty conclusions.
     
  15. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Who is claiming these ufo reports are unresolved? Who is claiming multiple accounts of ufos are conflated?
     
  16. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    If they were, then by definition, they wouldn't be UFOs, would they? They'd be IFOs.

    Or hoaxes, or Venus, or human craft that have been positively ID'd. Yes, those ones are resolved, and are no longer classified as UFOs.
     
  17. river

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    The context of MR .
     
  18. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    No..a ufo account is resolved precisely because there is no other explanation other than that it is a ufo. A ufo account can't be an ifo account at the same time.
     
  19. river

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    True .
     
  20. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Is there any tangible evidence aside from observations and experiences or is that it?
     
  21. river

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    What else is tangible ?
     
  22. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Something that isn't an observation or experience.
     
  23. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Refer to section entitled "Physical Evidence"

    http://www.ufoevidence.org/
     

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