UFO's and why they blink out.

Discussion in 'UFOs, Ghosts and Monsters' started by river, Mar 12, 2016.

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  1. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    No. Not at all.

    More sightings of misidentified things does not, in any way, increase the plausibility of it being of exotic origin. Your logic is flawed.



    How many of your photographs show things taking off quickly and making no noise?
     
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  3. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Consult the hundreds of photos of ufos since 1998. I already posted excellent websites on this.
     
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  5. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    I replied to your post. I didn't attribute anything to you that you did not say, only your response.
     
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  7. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Eyewitness testimony..as in the person taking the picture. Do I need to start posting hundreds of accounts of ufo sightings now? Or would that too be considered trolling?
     
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  8. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    You disagreed with Russ's post, and then agreed Russ was right when I told you it was his statement. Make up your mind.
     
  9. Russ_Watters Not a Trump supporter... Valued Senior Member

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    River's description was indeed far too vague to analyze specifically, so I focused on a specific and substantial class of UFOs: lights. Presumably, what he describes should be a significant class of UFOs too, otherwise it would be far too vague/random to be worth such an analysis, regardless of quality. I daresay that mis-identified point sources of light are likely the largest single class of UFOs and they do indeed tend to "blink out".
    Exactly correct, but just to expand; point sources of light are also impossible to tell distance to (much worse than extended objects). Point source UFOs of poorly judged distance cover about 10 orders of magnitude, from a few inches or feet away ("rods"...er, insects.) to a hundred million miles away (Venus).
     
  10. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Sorry..a saucer shaped or cylindrical craft in the sky is not a misidentified object. Consult the 1000's of photos and accounts we have on record for clarity.
     
  11. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Show me a couple of good ones that are significantly better in opportunity and detail than what we have seen over the last century.

    If one in a thousand people had an opportunity to take a pic a half century ago, but 999 in 1000 have that opportunity today. I expect to see evidence on the order of 1000 times better.

    Precisely. People describing what they think they saw.
     
  12. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    It is an object. No more. Everything else is speculation.
     
  13. Russ_Watters Not a Trump supporter... Valued Senior Member

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    By all means, please do. I'll wait for you to describe them to me.
    Science is not a secret. This is not the Dark Ages, where the Catholic Priests kept the Bible in Latin instead of translating it into English in order to deny their subjects the ability to read it. Science is open to all who choose to learn about it. Yes, even you.
     
  14. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Heck, even secret experimental military craft is orders of magnitude more probable than visitations.

    Again, think horses first.
     
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  15. Russ_Watters Not a Trump supporter... Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, you in the back - question?
     
  16. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    In other words, you got nothing to tell me that would "fix my ignorance." This is called "calling your bluff."
     
  17. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    No..we have no science that can produce craft that appear and disappear, hover without making a sound, or take off suddenly at 1000-3000 mph. We just don't. When it comes to ufos, think Pegasus not horses.

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    For instance explain THIS famous sighting in 2008:

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_O'Hare_International_Airport_UFO_sighting
     
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  18. Russ_Watters Not a Trump supporter... Valued Senior Member

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    MR, you of course know that your ignorance is your choice. There isn't anything I or anyone else can really do to help you until you decide you want to fix it.
     
  19. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Not necessarily ignorant, but these are naive:


    "..a saucer shaped or cylindrical craft in the sky is not a misidentified object. "

    "We can rule out hoax or mundane object by the properties of the object. "

    "Does it otoh speed off quickly and make no noise. Then it's most likely a ufo."
     
  20. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    You put far too much faith in eyewitness accounts. Those are all hasty conclusions.

    It is fact that people do make these mistakes.
     
  21. Russ_Watters Not a Trump supporter... Valued Senior Member

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    That's fine, no need. No reasonable evidence of such craft: if there was, you'd post it.
     
  22. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    That's kind of where I was going too.

    MR, you don't need to argue, or get upset.

    Some incontrovertible pics would speak for themselves.
     
  23. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Consult the some 30 threads I've posted on UFOs in this forum for evidence.
     
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