Trump Saves the World!

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  1. YoYoPapaya Trump/Norris - 2012 Registered Senior Member

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    Funny I always thought it was the other way around

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  3. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    Agreed
     
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  5. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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  7. Billy T Use Sugar Cane Alcohol car Fuel Valued Senior Member

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    If you think selling goods to Iran or offering technical assistance makes them subservient to you, you have totally lost touch with reality.

    Iran is supplying bombs and high explosives to the Muslim rebels in several Southern Russian states and the bombers blowing up the Moscow subway and airport - Hardly the actions of an Iran "subservient to Russia."

    Your post in the new "food inflation social stability" thread are equally out of touch with reality as quadraphonics has pointed out in several posts there.

    If your mind is not messed up with drugs, etc. while making the really irrational posts and then claiming to have supported the nonsense, Get some professional help.
     
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  8. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    Cosmic I think you are spending too much time listening to right wing radio (limbaugh, beck, et al) and too much time in right wing web sites. You have not supported your claims with facts nor reason.

    Things remain clear to you because you accept as fact the unreasonable and nonfactual statements and ideas put forth by your ideological leaders...more informed and rational folks don't feed from that trough.
     
  9. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    "It is no secret that Russia is the world’s biggest non-Muslim sponsor of Islamic terrorism. Russian weapons and rubles flow into Iran and Syria, and from there to terrorist groups throughout the Middle East. Russian personnel train the Iranians, who in turn train Iraqi Shiite terrorists on the best way to kill American soldiers

    Meanwhile, Putin and Medvedev are not just supplying weapons to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and the rest of the elite in Iran, but providing them with nuclear technology. Technology that puts Iran on track toward a nuclear bomb, which when detonated over Israel will not only remove the biggest obstacle in Russia’s longtime plans to control the Middle East, but to execute a Second Holocaust as well.

    Some people may wonder how, in the wake of Beslan and the numerous bombings by Muslim terrorists on its own soil, can Russia continue to support and work together with Muslim terrorists? The answer is that Putin and his merry band of ex-KGB operatives do not object to Muslim terrorists. They like them a lot, they helped train them, they continue to supply to them—so long as they’re not fighting against Russia."

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  10. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Just read this article and it will explain everything in depth to you.

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  11. Billy T Use Sugar Cane Alcohol car Fuel Valued Senior Member

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    Your link has some truth, but the real reason for Iraq invasion and for the strong French and Russian resistance to it is more related to fact France's Total oil company had all the oil contracts, which US based companies wanted AND Russian companies had all the oil field equipment and maintance contracts, which Dick Cheney wanted for his company, Halliburton. (He was the CEO with large pensions just suspended while he was VP)

    Cheney was much more intelligent than GWB, and soon had Bush buying into the WMD line to justify the invasion, (and several others before the final "liberate Iraq from evil Saddam" was the reason for the war.) That took some flexibility and skill as only a few years earlier Donald Rumsfeld was in Baghdad, photographed shaking Saddam's hand, back when the US was arming and assisting Iraq in the Iraq/Iran war.

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    "... {now declassified} documents show that during this period of renewed U.S. support for Saddam, he had invaded his neighbor (Iran), had long-range nuclear aspirations that would "probably" include "an eventual nuclear weapon capability," harbored known terrorists in Baghdad, abused the human rights of his citizens, and possessed and used chemical weapons on Iranians and his own people. The U.S. response was to renew ties, to provide intelligence* and aid to ensure Iraq would not be defeated by Iran, and to send a high-level presidential envoy named Donald Rumsfeld to shake hands with Saddam (20 December 1983) ..."
    FROM: http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB82/press.htm

    * Especially spy satellite photos of where Iranian troops were concentrated so the poison gas attacks could be more effective.

    It is interesting to note that Saddam's "trial" concerned fact he promptly killed (no trial) about dozen Kurds who had tried to assassinate him. Not one word in the trial concerned his war crime of using poison gas. The US directed that be the case, so Saddam could not bring up the fact that the US aided him to commit his war crimes.
     
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  12. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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  13. Carcano Valued Senior Member

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    So heres what I think is going to happen. Trump is serious about running and he will go through the primary races and lose to Romney. His vision is WAY too radical for mainstream politics.

    He will then use his wealth to run as an independant and hand Obama a second term on a silver platter.

    If he is elected, it will be great for the economy, and not so great for peace in the world. He calls himself the 'biggest war hawk'...like we need another one of those.

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  14. YoYoPapaya Trump/Norris - 2012 Registered Senior Member

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    How will it be great for the economy of the US?
     
  15. Carcano Valued Senior Member

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    Because of all the candidates he would be the most effective in bringing about trade equilibrium.
     
  16. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    I seriously doubt that. I agree that if Trump runs as an Independent, it will be good for Democrats. Trump does know how to put his companies into bankruptcy he has done it three times over the course of 10 years. The last time he put one of his companies into bankruptcy was in 2009.

    He certianly knows how to get sued. He has a number of people suing him including some investors who invested in a Trump building project in Mexico.
     
  17. Carcano Valued Senior Member

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    Trump admits to being leveraged up to his eyeballs...but he also says his real estate assets are worth many billions of dollars.
     
  18. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    Well if he runs, I guess we will find out how rich he really is.
     
  19. YoYoPapaya Trump/Norris - 2012 Registered Senior Member

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    Is he "old money" or did he make a fortune himself?
    It's not a rhetorical question. It's an ignorant one

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  20. Carcano Valued Senior Member

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    His father was a real estate developer in Queens New York.

    He started Donald off with $500,000 to fund his first venture in Manhatten.
     
  21. YoYoPapaya Trump/Norris - 2012 Registered Senior Member

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    But I hear some stories also about him running businesses into the ground. What is the reality? Is he good at what he does or did he somehow manage to get lucky?

    Some people say that luck is a much bigger factor than anything in determining who gets super rich and who just gets like moderately well off.

    Nassim Nicholas Taleb for instance.
     
  22. The Esotericist Getting the message to Garcia Valued Senior Member

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    The financial and political elites that choose the candidates that Americans vote for are seriously worried. Sarah Palin is NOT someone they have any inclination of letting into the oval office. The same grass roots ground swell of support for her is where the Donald would get his traction. He knows this, in fact, he has been hired to deflate her bubble. He'll be in it only long enough to make sure that she isn't a threat to the Republican Party. Then, he'll drop out when they thank him for a job well done and give him his pay off.

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  23. Carcano Valued Senior Member

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    He was almost wiped out in 1990 when he owed 900 million to the banks and they suddenly wanted their money back.

    He has benefited greatly from having excellent lawyers, who were able to buy him enough time to bounce back...by threathening multiple law suits.
     

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