True Existance vs Subsistance

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by Futurist, Sep 29, 2002.

  1. Futurist Banned Banned

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    Do you truly exist?
    IF you think you are just made up of chemical elements, gone into nothingness after death (decomposed into original basic elements), then your existance now is not permanent, it is not true existance, just a Subsistance.

    in this case, you do not exist, but subsist on certain conditions.
    right?

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  3. SoLiDUS OMGWTFBBQ Registered Senior Member

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    If there truly is NOTHING awaiting me after physical death, I will
    not know it: it will simply be a pleasant sleep devoid of dreams.
    If, however, SOMETHING does happen after physical death, Yippy
    kai Yay Muthafuka...

    I personally believe in the latter and no, I will not extrapolate on
    my reasons for choosing so.

    To answer your question: do I exist ?

    Based on the consistency of my conscious reality, indeed. Yes, we
    can argue that this position is indefensible but so is stating that
    we don't exist.

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  5. Futurist Banned Banned

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    i believe our souls is eternal.
    if we cease existing after death, you can't call it a sleep, because every sleep shall wake up.
     
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  7. SoLiDUS OMGWTFBBQ Registered Senior Member

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    Must you be so literal ??

    All dreams aside, are you aware of yourself when sleeping ?
    No ? MY POINT EXACTLY.

    Why do you think they say "after death, your final sleep awaits" ?
     
  8. EvilPoet I am what I am Registered Senior Member

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    Futurist: Can you please define what you mean
    by true exsitence, subsistance, and subsist?
     
  9. Futurist Banned Banned

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    true existance means you do not need other conditions to exist, not food, air, water etc. you just exist forever and never die.

    in dictionary, subsist is used with the preposition ON,
    you subsist on air, food , water etc. to survive.

    clear?



     
  10. EvilPoet I am what I am Registered Senior Member

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    Probably clear as it's gonna get. Thanks for your reply.


    "Morpheus: Have you ever had a dream,
    Neo, that you were so sure was real? What if you
    were unable to wake from that dream? How would
    you know the difference between the dream world
    and the real world?" -The Matrix
     
  11. machaon Registered Senior Member

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    subsist

    No, I subsist. I also hyperxist. Overxist and also provide a good argument against non-existance. In my spare time I write greeting cards.
     
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    If i have a pizza in front of me what should i enjoy: its existence or its substance?

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  13. goofy headed punk Registered Senior Member

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    I exsist as much as you do. Now, wether you exsist or not, that's a problem.
     
  14. Clockwood You Forgot Poland Registered Senior Member

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    I think, therefore I am.
     

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