Trees are NOT alive.

Discussion in 'Biology & Genetics' started by Enmos, Jul 28, 2008.

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  1. Steve100 O͓͍̯̬̯̙͈̟̥̳̩͒̆̿ͬ̑̀̓̿͋ͬ ̙̳ͅ ̫̪̳͔O Valued Senior Member

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    Comical thread.
     
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  3. DeepThought Banned Banned

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    Any meaningful existence is surely based upon thought?

    Is that an arrogance or an approximation of truth?
     
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  5. greenberg until the end of the world Registered Senior Member

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    Well, yes ... But what did you expect? That he or people in general will be enlightened? :thankyou:
    Often, they are not, and this is just the way things are on planet Earth.
     
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  7. Myles Registered Senior Member

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    The thread is not about meaningful existence; that would be an antropomorphism if we are discussing trees.

    The question : Is a tree alive ?
     
  8. DeepThought Banned Banned

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    Yes.

    Until it's dead.
     
  9. Steve100 O͓͍̯̬̯̙͈̟̥̳̩͒̆̿ͬ̑̀̓̿͋ͬ ̙̳ͅ ̫̪̳͔O Valued Senior Member

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    The problem seems to be that John99 does not understand that in its most basic sense "alive" means "to have life".
    The sun example earlier was a good example.
     
  10. Pandaemoni Valued Senior Member

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    So is your definition of "alive." It's just an opinion that happens also to be a distortion of reality.
     
  11. Myles Registered Senior Member

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    Is it better omn other planets ?
     
  12. Enmos Staff Member

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    Well.. I'm disappointed. I know people won't easily give up their more complicated ideas.. but this.. ?
    It's almost like someone is saying grass is blue, and when pointed out his error just keeps yelling that grass is blue.
    I don't understand it.. :shrug:
     
  13. Enmos Staff Member

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    Although it's in the definition he himself gave !
     
  14. kenworth dude...**** it,lets go bowling Registered Senior Member

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    Originally Posted by John99
    oh and kenwworth. The way that trees reproduce is nothing like human reproduction. For one thing humans need another human. Plants do not, it is the amalgamation of two beings that separates alive from not (truly) alive. ”
    “ Originally Posted by John99
    Kenworth,

    I consider bacteria to be alive too.

    You brought up reproduction but i do know that some bacteria reproduce sexually with a male and a female. Either way bacteria are very, very much alive. Trees are organisms but not alive and they are closer to a rock than to an ant. ”
    “ Originally Posted by John99
    You brought up reproduction. I dont think i ever made any statement like that nor would I. ”


    look at the two parts in red
     
  15. Randwolf Ignorance killed the cat Valued Senior Member

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    :bugeye: I just randomly picked one of the posts to quote.

    This thread is great for humor, but do the rest of you honestly believe that John99 thinks trees are not alive? Or not living, or which ever way the semantics went? I just can't seem to get my mind arround the concept that anyone could be that far away from the consenus as to whether a tree is alive! I've tried, really, I have.

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    I think he is just stirring the pot here... Please admit you're just trolling, right John99?

    On the other hand, if everyone is still having a good old time at this, I say have at it...

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  16. Enmos Staff Member

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    I agree.. I feel the same way.
    The alternative is too disturbing.
     
  17. Randwolf Ignorance killed the cat Valued Senior Member

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    F**kin amen, brother...
     
  18. Simon Anders Valued Senior Member

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    I accused him of trolling and receive a

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    in return. Of course a good troll would not say 'Oh, you got me, I am a troll'.

    My theory is that he responded impulsively at first. Found himself in a corner and rather than admit it he's just dug in his heels.

    But maybe he's really a computer program meant to simulate a human

    AND NOT REALLY ALIVE.

    Perhaps he is jealous that we consider trees alive.
     
  19. Yorda Registered Senior Member

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    lol everything is just a matter of definition, nothing matters, everything is alive, the ancients said so, but materialists don't agree, they made rocks dead by defining them dead.
     
  20. Myles Registered Senior Member

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    If everything is a matter of definition, I assume I am free to define everything as nothing.
     
  21. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    If trees were really alive, then they would know better than to mess with us.
     
  22. Myles Registered Senior Member

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    You havewn't seen the mess they make on my car when I live it in thye driveway in aitumn
     
  23. CharonZ Registered Senior Member

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    I consider it rather tragical.
     
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