Top 10 most horrible Christian torture devices

Discussion in 'History' started by Magical Realist, Oct 23, 2013.

  1. Jan Ardena Valued Senior Member

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    wynn,

    Isn't that what you want? To do what you want when you want?
    You don't want to know God, but when things go bad all of a sudden ''why does God allow...''
    We created this hell, and God (according to any scripture) allows a way out of it. What do we do? We waste time.

    Once the action has been permitted, they can do frack all.
    Plus they cannot stop intention.
    But no matter, because it has nothing with them, our evil deeds are sanctioned within the environment we create for ourselves.

    Yes.


    Develop your intelligence and learn to discriminate.

    Like I said, develop your intelligence and learn to discriminate.
    At present you don't have the capacity to comprehend what Prabhpada means.

    jan.
     
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  3. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    That's right, yes, you just project into me stuff I don't mean! That's your universal solution.


    As long as I let you be the judge of whether I have indeed "developed intelligence and learned to discriminate", eh?


    Because desiring to kick people and piss on them is sooooooooo transcendental, right.
     
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  5. Gage Registered Senior Member

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    You jumped my question.
     
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  7. spidergoat Venued Serial Membership Valued Senior Member

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    OK, but he didn't.
     
  8. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    The CDC is "mostly bullshit?" Interesting viewpoint.

    If cavities were often fatal, and they were growing up in an area where there was no toothpaste - it might make sense. Here it wouldn't.

    Agreed. However, if you are raising 8 kids in an area with high rates of HIV, it might be a good call. It's up to the parents, not to you.
     
  9. spidergoat Venued Serial Membership Valued Senior Member

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    Like sub-Saharan Africa? Please. Those studies are deeply flawed. If religion didn't start promoting it, there would be no data to compare. And we haven't even started on the female version.
     
  10. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Agreed. But it did - and we have the data.

    I wouldn't do it to my kids. But I feel the same way I do about this that I do about abortion - it's a bad idea, I wouldn't do it and I'd try to talk my friends out of doing it. But I don't get to decide for everyone.

    Are you really trying to equate them?
     
  11. spidergoat Venued Serial Membership Valued Senior Member

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    Both are motivated by religious custom.
     
  12. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Not really. Only a certain fraction of male circumcisions are religious (it's a common tribal custom throughout Africa) and almost no female mutilations are (tolerance is not motivation).

    I'm not convinced Mao belongs in the mass murderer pantheon - almost all the deaths happened in the Great Famine, and that was a combination of unprecedented drought and very bad agricultural policy - no one has suggested that Mao set out to starve anyone, the way Stalin did.

    IIRC the largest deliberate mass killings in China have been by probably theistic (depending on definition) Mongols, definitely religious if only dubiously theistic Japanese soldiers in WWII, and the Catholic Christian Chiang Kai-Shek in WWII (when he blew the dikes and levees on the Yellow River).

    We have eyewitness accounts of State prisons and "re-education" facilities used to confine Mao's political foes, btw, and they generally mention that the torture devices and facilities inherited from the previous regime were no longer employed except as displays for propaganda comparisons. The atheistic and secular Maoist regime apparently did not go in for torture machinery, in contrast to the theistic and otherwise religious regimes prior to the Revolution.
     
  13. wallarookiller Registered Senior Member

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    Hmm. Not to sure about the Spanish Donkey. Not that I'd want anything to do with it.
     
  14. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    When I looked, the top of the list was "Effective Anxiety Therapy".
    Now it says "Free Stock Photos"
     
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  15. The Marquis Only want the best for Nigel Valued Senior Member

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    I wish you people would stop bringing your silly little arguments in here using the pretext of history.
     

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