Top 10 most horrible Christian torture devices

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  1. spidergoat Venued Serial Membership Valued Senior Member

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    I don't want to get too intellectual, you could turn into a mass murderer.
     
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    Google: goalpost shifting.
     
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  5. arauca Banned Banned

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    Since you don't have anything to compare and to rescue me from my stupidity . that means you are an empty drum and just resonate.
    Your physiology analyzing me to turn me into mass murder tells ma a little more what you are , I say again an empty drum.
     
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  7. Sorcerer Put a Spell on you Registered Senior Member

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    11 Sunday school
     
  8. spidergoat Venued Serial Membership Valued Senior Member

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    Don't you know what you said? You said that because it takes some intellectual capacity to mass murder on an industrial scale, those people were probably atheists.

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  9. arauca Banned Banned

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    I know what I said . I can add some more examples of intellectual mass murders. I am sure on the Manhattan project cooks and painters did not developed and produced the Atomic bomb,, there were rational intellectual like Oppenheimer. Leó Szilárd and Eugene Wigner drafted the Einstein–Szilárd letter, to build a powerful bomb. Then more good rational people , Hans Bethe, John Van Vleck, Edward Teller, Emil Konopinski, Robert Serber, Stan Frankel, and Eldred C. Nelson, the latter three former students of Oppenheimer,
    Do you want me bring some more names ? According to your statement Christian are to stupid , and do.t have the intellect, Yes Christian battle sickness in Less developed country , the intellectual develop drones to kill people .
    I think I should stop here . because it will become very dirty debate.
     
  10. spidergoat Venued Serial Membership Valued Senior Member

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    I didn't say Christians were stupid, you did. So you insulted both atheists and Christians. Nice job.

    The scientists involved in the Manhattan Project didn't order the bomb to be dropped, that was Harry S. Truman, a Baptist.
     
  11. spidergoat Venued Serial Membership Valued Senior Member

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    Who said that Jesus was “the true God”, that the goal of his own movement was to “translate the ideals of Christ into deeds”; who said “we are the first to exhume these teachings through us alone, and not until now do these teachings celebrate their resurrection. Mary and Magdalene stood at the empty tomb, for they were seeking the dead man, but we intend to raise the treasures of the living Christ”.?

    Hitler
     
  12. spidergoat Venued Serial Membership Valued Senior Member

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    “we are at fault in not slaying them”

    Martin Luther, "DIE JUDEN UND IHREN LUEGEN" (The Jews and Their Lies)
     
  13. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    And God-fearing fanatic bad people. The one common trait in most fanatics is worship of a person or a religion; it takes a True Believer to do evil. Quite often, religion provides the "moral excuse" they need to perform mass murder, torture etc.

    Here's a Pope explaining that all good God-fearing people must go forth and kill Arabs:

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    For your brethren who live in the east are in urgent need of your help, and you must hasten to give them the aid which has often been promised them. For, as the most of you have heard, the Turks and Arabs have attacked them and have conquered the territory of Romania as far west as the shore of the Mediterranean and the Hellespont, which is called the Arm of St. George. They have occupied more and more of the lands of those Christians, and have overcome them in seven battles. They have killed and captured many, and have destroyed the churches and devastated the empire. If you permit them to continue thus for awhile with impurity, the faithful of God will be much more widely attacked by them. On this account I, or rather the Lord, beseech you as Christ's heralds to publish this everywhere and to persuade all people of whatever rank, foot-soldiers and knights, poor and rich, to carry aid promptly to those Christians and to destroy that vile race from the lands of our friends. I say this to those who are present, it meant also for those who are absent. Moreover, Christ commands it.

    All who die by the way, whether by land or by sea, or in battle against the pagans, shall have immediate remission of sins.
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  14. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    I just have one name for you. The one and only man who made the decision to use atomic bombs on Japan and kill a third of a million civilians - Harry S. Truman, a God-fearing Baptist.
     
  15. spidergoat Venued Serial Membership Valued Senior Member

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    Not that I would condemn him for it, it was a good decision. Arauca is fond of pointing out atheists who have done harm, we could point out theists that have done harm. This sounds like equality except for the fact that

    1. Atheism isn't a religion.
    2. Only theistic religions claim that belief in them will result in people being good.

    So, if theists don't do good, or many of them do evil on a grand scale, that means theism is no better than the absence of theism.
     
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    I agree . That is what I said I don't want to bring out the dirty underwear . So don't bring what Christians have done , among us are all variety of individual , to me Bush Jr. is a mass murder so called Christian . Schwitzer was a great humanist and I am not sure he was a believer .
     
  17. arauca Banned Banned

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    You are fullish I am not fond to point any thing . Do you see what is this post opening about ?
     
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    Religion will be down fall of Humanity
     
  19. arauca Banned Banned

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    So far in the last 4000 years humanity is here and healthy and we see the godless society have turned to God back .
     
  20. river

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    Because they have no idea of the history of god back 4000yrs
     
  21. Jan Ardena Valued Senior Member

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    billvon,

    Why?

    If only that was true, millions and millions of people's lives may have been spared in the 20th century, from athiests.

    No. You're talking about religionists who may or may not be true believers. Good luck proving their theism.
    True believers don't need to consult priests and the like to decide whether 'thou shalt kill'.

    Again. Why?

    Which is why they were atheists.

    Stalin, Pot, and the whole gang were all atheist. I'm sorry but the slaughter of millions, be they people or animals, is the trademark of atheism.

    jan.
     
  22. Jan Ardena Valued Senior Member

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    I think you're right, and those religions will be God-less religions.

    jan.
     
  23. wynn ˙ Valued Senior Member

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    Those people were not considered innocent, though. They were found guilty of the crimes they were accused of.


    Indeed.


    Not necessarily.

    But such torture and killing, when performed by people in the name of God, does seem a lot worse in comparison to when such things are done by atheists.


    Why does God just stand by and let people do all kinds of things in His name??
     

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