Adstar, you still haven't answered my questions from the OP. That's how you read?? I say eventually, I realized I wasn't sure whether what I thought was God, truly was God or just my wishful thinking, my fantasy and to you, this means that I stated that my Christian faith was just wishful thinking a fantasy and that I rejected my Christian faith because I decided that the Christian faith is a result of wishful thinking, a fantasy If this is how you are going to misinterpret me, then there is no point in continuing this conversation. That is YOUR conclusion. You gave an example of what wishful thinking would be for you. I don't have the same ideas of wishful thinking as you. Good for you. What about me? How do I arrive at the surety you have? If I end up going to hell, then this will be a sure sign that I have wasted my life. How did they arrive at that point? How do they know they aren't just indulging in wishful thinking? How do they distinguish between reality and imagination? What are their criteria for making this distinction? Please, answer the questions from the OP.