Time or motion

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  1. Ethernos D Grace Registered Senior Member

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    Dry, I think entangled particle will actually spin faster..lol
     
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  3. Ethernos D Grace Registered Senior Member

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    Sry, i think spin would be faster.
     
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  5. origin Heading towards oblivion Valued Senior Member

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    As you have been told before these particles don't spin like little tops. Additionally, subatomic particles have constant spin, the spin does not change for a given particle regardless of what is happening to the particle.
     
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  7. Ethernos D Grace Registered Senior Member

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    I heard that knowing the state of one particle allows the information on other paired particle.
     
  8. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    What physicists call spin is not analogous to spin like a top, any more than electron orbitals are analogous to planets orbiting stars.
     
  9. Ethernos D Grace Registered Senior Member

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    I've thought a lot and I don't know if I can make this right little help here.
    First we chose a boson and measure its energy,Et. Then it is entangled into two particles each having energy Et/2.one particle is send into black hole. Other is kept at a lab. Then wave function is measured (idk if I am using this right) before the wave function collapses.then we compare Et/2 with the last reading. There must an equation relating wave function and energy or is it the same.
     
  10. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Once the particle enters the BH, we can never verify its state. Sure, our lab electron will tell us which state we expect it to be in, but how would we ever verify it?
     
  11. Ethernos D Grace Registered Senior Member

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    I was thinking if particles were entangled their wave function would be same and since the time varies for two particle.one electron would experience time dilation , then to sync either one has to attain mass or lose it. Highs field will come into action. So the measured electron should have greater or lower energy.
     
  12. Ethernos D Grace Registered Senior Member

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    I feel that the difference is due to change in geometry as for ice skater but what i was saying includes body of same velocity and in geometry is not changing.
     
  13. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Not sure I follow.
    An ice skater is spinning. So is a car tire, and a 33RPM record. Even if they stay in a fixed geometry, their outer edges are moving faster than their centre, so technically, their outer edges experience time and length contraction. Why would that be problem for a hypothetical atomic-sized billiard ball if it's not a problem for an LP or a Goodyear?
     
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  14. Ethernos D Grace Registered Senior Member

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    I saw this video about angular momentum in which ice skater increases her spin by contracting her. I thought question was about why her spin increase.
     
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  15. Ethernos D Grace Registered Senior Member

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    Sry for weak answer. Imagine universe spining and galaxy and panets were inside a round bottle of water having enough density that it floats in between and imagine the bottle surrounded by f
    I am actually not understanding the question here, r u asking why atom interacts weak with time? Please ask me question so elementary level can even understand. Sorry for the trouble.
     
  16. Ethernos D Grace Registered Senior Member

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    Okay, newtons law 1st,2nd or 3rd idk. When force is applied on something it fights back with equal strength and knocks out his opponent. Earth size lump of particles will vibrate and in exchange universe will fight back. And what the atom vibrate universe also fights back. But the amount of vibration of earth will be greater and atom will be much smaller. smaller.
     
  17. Ethernos D Grace Registered Senior Member

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    So on a wider scale atom and subatomic particles flow with time with a little variation.
     
  18. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Essentially that experience has already been done. Look up "Shapiro delay" if you're interested.

    Quantum mechanical spin doesn't work the way you think it works, judging from what you've written.
     
  19. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Ethernos:

    Most of your posts aren't making any sense. Please try harder, or I might assume you're simply here to troll.
     
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  20. Ethernos D Grace Registered Senior Member

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    Sry, i am not here to troll...sincerely..
     
  21. Ethernos D Grace Registered Senior Member

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    What does this define about small radius billard ball?
    :::integral R=(1/C^2) x integral √over (E1 x E2 x G divided by F).
    E= energy
    F= force
    R= radius
    G=6.67 x 10^-11
    C=speed of light
     
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  22. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Nothing. That's pseudo-maths.

    Why did you post that, Ethernos?
     
  23. Ethernos D Grace Registered Senior Member

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    I wanted to know effect of gravity as the radius decreases.
     

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