Tiangong 1 Reenters Over South Pacific

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  1. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    well there goes an entire TV series in the trash can

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  3. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    picturing some small island bar with a fuel-tank(only thing they said would survive?) as a terrace lounge feature

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    with some long island ice tea involving an awful lot of tequila and absinthe being caled "re-entry fuel"

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  5. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Ask what? The OP has been banned. It's not up to me to question or explain.

    Is that why they locked the thread too? To help you?
     
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  7. LaurieAG Registered Senior Member

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    My internet security blocked a malicious page redirect just after I viewed their error page so I would would not advise anybody to go to a site that either codes malicious crap or is infected or both.
     
  8. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    What does that have to do with you being banned and the thread being locked?


    More to the point, how does this address the flawed premise of your thesis?
     
  9. LaurieAG Registered Senior Member

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    I answered all of the questions here and there so how about you answer some.

    What was your method and projection for Tiangong 1's atmospheric reentry time on March 1?

    How accurate were you?
     
  10. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    It's not my role to answer questions.
    You are making the assertions, the onus is on you to make your case.

    You have not answered the single central question I've asked: by what rationale do you express certainty that the solar panels on a satellite - built to operate in micro-gravity, and never designed, engineered or intended to do so - could bear the load of an 8 tonne satellite in a chaotic re-entry scenario?

    It just makes no sense. If they could bear such a load, then they were extremely poorly-engineered to do the thing they were actually designed to do. Why would the designers sacrifice all that precious, precious payload mass just to reinforce a part that has no reason to bear any weight?
     
  11. origin In a democracy you deserve the leaders you elect. Valued Senior Member

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    Clearly you are correct. It looks like this thread is become a woo-woo thread and will probably end up in the fringe section.
     
  12. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Indeed. Laurie AG made the following post, out of nowhere, on a thread on another forum titled "Near Earth Objects":

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    Here's a special note for Sideshow Bob.

    It's strange that it seems the UTC timers were out from at least March 27 to April 1 per my posts and 4 hours out (I noticed the actual difference) from April 2 to April 6 from 3:00am AEST to 11:00am AEST (08:00pm until 04:00am Damascus time) until it was only out by 30 mins on April 7 as the UTC timers are set off the GPS timers according to Google.

    If I recall correctly US GPS is usually only out when 1 thing is about to happen, so it's also very strange that the reason for this 1 thing happening was actually on April 8 and happened on April 14.

    Sideshow Bob, I have been following your trail of dead female children around the world since the Clark US airforce base in the Phillipines was closed in 1991, so you couldn't continue to prey on the local populace anymore. You were transferred to the Osan US airforce base in South Korea and, as a result, were the major reason for the South Korean people saying that the US was more of a threat to them than North Korea. Then you were transferred to Lakenheath in Cambridgeshire Suffolk where you just couldn't help yourself again in 2002. You then appeared again in Iraq at the US Al Assad airforce base, during the operation to liberate Iraqi oil reserves for your influential buddies, because you didn't want to miss out on any 'action'.

    So you now occupy a position of power and influence in the US military, obviously as a result of your industry and dedication to your job, despite your obhorrent pecadillo's. If you are lucky you and your Organisation of Corrupt Individuals (OCI) will be locked up and have the key thrown away for your crimes against humanity. You may hold a high position now but all of your fellow partners in crime will share the same punishment as you if they don't turn themselves in and rat on the king rat.

    We have already seen one example of your considerable influence and loyalty to your RAAF friends here so I must warn you of the alternative to the type of justice you will get should you not be taken out of action by your masters. Do the words 'hoist by your own petard' have any meaning to you? There are several historic precedents for your alternate punishment should you and your cronies choose not to fess up to your crimes and hand yourselves in.

    One is what happened to the English Officer in Cromwells army during the 'Seige of Drogheda'. He was killed by his own troops after using Irish children as human shields against the Irish pikes as they massacred the final holdouts in the garrets. I heard that method was popular during the Vietnam war. I also read a good thesis about OCI's and was surprised that the head of the organisation the student worked for was involved in a paedophile ring with a bunch of cronies just like you and your deviate 'mates'. Apparently the ring leader was found mutilated with numerous knife wounds and had his appendage cut off and put in his mouth by one of their many victims. The authorities didn't bother to look too hard for the culprit for obvious reasons.

    So farewell Sideshow Bob, by the time you read this you will only have one possible option left if your fate hasn't caught up with you already. I know it's the cowards way out, confessing all your transgressions and dobbing your 'mates', but hey that's you to the core isn't it.

    UNQUOTE.

    This was posted on 15th April this year. There is no "Sideshow Bob" on that forum, so perhaps he is referring to the fiction character, but who knows?

    Anyway this suggests, sadly, that Laurie AG is a total fruitcake, though a lot of the time he seems to control it well enough.
     
  13. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    What forum is that?
     
  14. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    Are we still trying to make a brickbat act like a butterfly?

    Asking for a friend.
     
  15. LaurieAG Registered Senior Member

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    You are using a fallacy of authority (from Google below) because you cannot provide the design specifications for Tiangong 1 to prove your point where at least I used a repeatable method and predicted the atmospheric reentry time correct as well as providing a reasonable rationale for the stability of the reentry and the predictability of my projection.

    The UTC timer discrepancies also resulted in thousands of ATO Superannuation transactions in their brand new system going into limbo and being put aside for manual processing. They noticed the problem on March 23.
     
  16. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    This one: http://www.scienceforums.com/topic/24218-near-earth-objects/page-13

    It's not very good, being dominated by cranks and nutcases that the mods don't seem interested in controlling. Our friend Reiku is there, under the name Dubbelosix, blogging crap to his heart's content. Nobody ever replies. Also tony lang, another mad blogger. River had a go there under the name "current", at a time when he was banned from here. And there is a serial twat called A-wal. Very occasionally, a science issue worth discussing comes up. But seldom.
     
  17. LaurieAG Registered Senior Member

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    Lucky you stayed away from the NEO thread exchemist. I'm really glad you bought that post up before because you never bothered to say anything on the other thread where it was posted. Maybe you could use the answers below to upgrade your knowledge a bit. While I don't expect you or the rest of your buddies to actually think about science things, or shift from under your bridge, but there may be other people who are interested who won't swallow every spoon of bull crap placed in front of them, Bon appetit.

    (Q1) Do you know who controls the US GPS system and what it's development phases were?
    (A1-1) The US military, mainly the USAF.
    (A1-2) GPS was conceived in 1973 and the first experimental GPS Block I satellite was launced in 1978. In 1989 the first modern GPS Block II satellite was launched and its "Selective Availability" capability was first used in the first Gulf war in 1991 but they turned it off because it interfered with their own GPS. By 2000 "Selective Availability" was retired and between 2010 and 2016 the GPS Block IIF satellites were launched which had the capability to upload and run new programs. The latest GPS Block III satellites are either already up there or will be launched depending on what you read and it has been written that they have the ability to block selected countries.

    (Q2) Do you know who is building Global GPS type systems?
    (A2) Russia already has one and Europe, China and Elon Musk are some of the others building theirs.

    (Q3) Do you know when criminals could transfer into the military in the US?
    (A3) Almost anybody, including paedophiles, could be transferred into the military during and almost up until the end of the Vietnam war. Of course they were transferred OS and were not allowed to return home for a long long time because the authorities don't want them to molest their own countries children.

    in 1973 a 17 month old baby was removed from her crib in Brisbane, raped & bitten on the thigh then murdered and had her body thrown on top of a toilet block in a nearby park. The person responsible was in the RAAF at the time and the RAAF said that he was not on leave from South Australia at the time of his trial even though it was revealed later that he actually was on leave in Queensland at the time. It came out in 1995 that the (Vietnamese) mother, of an 11 year old girl who was sold for sex to a 60 year old man for a carton of cigarettes, lived next door to the murdered babys house in 1973 and the mother was prostituted herself as a child to military personnel. The RAAF soldier was not retried due to habeus corpus but our state laws were changed so that this could happen in future cases if new evidence had come to light.

    In South Korea two young girls were found dead in a ditch after it was alleged that they had both been sideswiped by a jeep outside a US military base. Since then the US politicians have asked many countries to sign legal waivers for US military personnel in those countries and while the UK signed in 2002, at the time of the Soham murders, Australia has not. The Soham murders was where 2 young girls were found dead in a ditch outside a US airforce base, the person who was eventually charged was first said to be too mental to even appear in court although 3 months later he was apparently sane enough to plead guilty and 4 years later he was released and put on a witness protection scheme, no bull! During the Iraq war 3 young girls were found dead and 2 of them had been raped, there could have been more but that's when they stopped reporting them. They also have not published how many tens of thousands of tons of Opium are produced in Afghanistan each year after the Taliban cut it down to 150 tons.

    (Q4) What are good recent examples of the Sideshow Bob (from the Simpsons) mode of operation (apart from the fact he was never seen raping and murdering any children on Television, it wouldn't be allowed).
    (A4-1) The recent alleged Russian attempted murder in the UK had a result where nobody actually died regardless of the fact that an alleged Russian chemical weapon was used, the only fatalities were 2 hamsters and a cat sealed inside the victims house by the police, and the politicians offered no evidence.

    (A4-2) Also recently the US, UK and France launched approximately 100 missiles costing around US$3,300,000 each to destroy old infrastructure for free in a sovereign nation when their own countries old infrastructure is falling down without any political infrastructure at all. And the entire evidence was based on the social media posts of a group founded by an ex UK mercenary/intelligence officer. The Snopes Author who said that it could not be proved that this group had any association with terrorists had a professional Snopes profile that ended with "She is a big X-Files fan, because while she says it was not aliens, it was aliens." Really credible exchemist.

    (A4-3) Why would you preempt a preemptive strike by selectively blocking a countries GPS? It would be far easier to program your old GPS IIF satellites so that they were out by a consistent amount for a specific period in the night during the duration of the operation, return it back to normal when the operation had finished and hope nobody noticed the differences because most were asleep where you were attacking. If you lost you could just reset the programming as soon as you could and fake a chemical attack.

    So I don't doubt that Sideshow Bob has been very active lately and, while his political masters had many countries sign those waivers they aren't really worth the paper they are written on because the politicians did not reveal who and what they were protecting and most of those countries have dossiers on him and his perverted buddies anyway! Him and his buddies probably can't get it up anyway these days, being in their late 60's, so that's another benefit for the children of the world.
     
  18. sweetpea Valued Senior Member

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    Is someone having a FUNGG!! moment?
     
  19. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    You might think so. I couldn't possibly comment.
     
  20. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Quod erat demonstrandum.
     
  21. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Not sure who this is directed at. Don't see anyone arguing from authority.

    But again, the onus is not on us to make any point.

    You have come forward with an assertion that is based on the premise that the satellite is aerodynamically equivalent to a re-entry glider.

    It is a fact that the sat was never designed to be a re-entry glider, and thus self-evident that similarities are superficial at best.

    In order for any of your further work to make any sense at all, you'll have to demonstrate how you think that first premise could possibly be reasonable.
     
  22. LaurieAG Registered Senior Member

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    You are arguing from an authority you do not possess i.e. you are not an expert on leading edge Chinese satellite design and cannot supply any evidence for your assertions despite repeated requests.

    Unpredictable satellite reentry has been a big problem for ages and due to Chinese foresight they have produced a satellite that can have its reentry predicted by basic Newtonian ballistic methods as evidenced in my posts.
     
  23. origin In a democracy you deserve the leaders you elect. Valued Senior Member

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    Absurd.
     
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