Proposal: There is no Doppler shift of light reflected from a moving mirror

Discussion in 'Formal debates' started by James R, Nov 8, 2011.

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  1. Tach Banned Banned

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    Actually, I made the topic very precise. Now, we'll see which one of the two is the pretender. We already know who the troll is. So, it is time for you to stop trolling and to start the debate. Are you ready?
     
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  3. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Tach:

    I specified the topic:

    "That there is no Doppler shift of light reflected from a wheel."

    That's the same as your unnecessarily wordy one, isn't it?

    So, you agree to the debate of my topic?
     
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  5. Tach Banned Banned

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    No, it is not, knowing what sort of weasel you are, we set it to be precise. Are you ready?
     
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  7. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Tach:

    Why the diversion onto wheels?

    Recall your original claim once more:

    Since your reflective wheel simply stands in for a mirror, how about:

    "That there is proof that the light reflected off a mirror shows zero Doppler effect between the source and the receiver in the case of the mirror moving"

    ?
     
  8. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Why is it not the same?

    Also, we don't need relativistic speeds, do we?
     
  9. Tach Banned Banned

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    So, are you wimping out? You were chomping at the bit, why are you backing out. I am making an even bolder claim, this gives you an even better chance to prove me wrong.
     
  10. Tach Banned Banned

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    Because I like precision and because I don't trust you

    We don't, that's true. It just makes my life more difficult and the claim bolder. So, I'll drop the "relativistic speeds" from the title. OK?
     
  11. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Tach:

    Ok, I have thought about this some more.

    I am willing to debate you on the topic:

    "That that the light reflected off the circular rim of a mirror-like wheel shows zero Doppler effect between the source and the receiver in the case of the wheel rolling without slipping"

    You will take the affirmative side. I will take the negative side.

    Standard rules will apply.

    Since you have been dithering around for days on this, I will probably be short of time for the next week or so. I ask that the Standard rules be modified to allow for a 4-day respond time limit instead of 2 days.

    Do you accept the title and terms of the debate?

    If you accept, then you may open a Debate thread on the topic. As the affirmative, you get to go first.
     
  12. Tach Banned Banned

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    You're on.
     
  13. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    This proposal thread is now closed.

    [thread=110904]Debate thread[/thread]
    [thread=110905]Discussion thread[/thread]
     
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