Theism is Primitive Thinking

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  1. Doreen Valued Senior Member

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    They have brought us to the brink of destruction in an era where there are more atheists then ever before?
     
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  3. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Your implication is that religious people who truly believe as you do would be immune from greed, gluttony, sloth, pride, wrath, envy, and lust. That is simply not the case.
     
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  5. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    AS (SHE) STATED, it is a problem shared by atheists and theists alike.

    :shrug:
     
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  7. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Then theism isn't a solution. These are obviously traits essential to our survival.
     
  8. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    If you can't recognize them as problems there's no question of solving them (what to speak of declaring them as essential to our survival)
     
  9. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Solving human nature? That's the problem, trying to be something we are not.
     
  10. shichimenshyo Caught in the machine Registered Senior Member

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    Greed is a trait that is/was essential for human survival.
     
  11. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    One person's greed is another's ambition.
     
  12. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    greed is all about being after something we are not
     
  13. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    Its the primitive nature of greed that distinguishes it from other types of ambition
     
  14. shichimenshyo Caught in the machine Registered Senior Member

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    What? No, greed is about attaining resources
     
  15. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    Being "after something" isn't the same as being what we are not. Religions beg us to pretend we aren't what we are. It teaches us to be fake, it uses fake authority figures, and it breeds hypocrites.
     
  16. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    or more specifically .... Excessive desire to acquire or possess more (especially more material wealth) than one needs or deserves
     
  17. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    Spiritual life is about bringing a person round to acting to their highest potential.

    Material life is about bringing a person to acting to their lowest common denominator.

    Issues of falsity arise when issues of lowest denominations are portrayed as highest potentials.

    The biggest vehicles of begging us to pretend and fake it lie with advertising. If it appears that religion has the greatest scope fro hypocrisy, that is simply because the higher the standard, the less likely that people in general will be able to maintain it.
     
  18. shichimenshyo Caught in the machine Registered Senior Member

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    Isn't greed just a biological mechanism that helps a species to survive?
     
  19. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    Actually to the degree that intelligence can keep pace with greed (IOW to the degree that greed hijacks the intelligence) is the degree that a species stands to be disharmonious with its environemnt
     
  20. shichimenshyo Caught in the machine Registered Senior Member

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    Hmm I can agree with that, but how do you solve the problem of greed overpowering rational intelligent thought?
     
  21. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    So is greed.
     
  22. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    then we have a fundamental disagreement about acquiring resources above and beyond what is actually required (at the expense of the environment and other individuals) as a "higher" potential.
     
  23. lightgigantic Banned Banned

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    It requires a movement away from Positivism, Pragmatism, Existentialism or any other philosophy that, in the name of awakening from dogmatic slumber, begins by assuming God irrelevant .... and then goes further to assume the material world as mankind's own godless paradise. These paths bend reason away from the real logic of creation, namely to reform us from our illusion.

    IOW one of the reasons that greed can be so powerful is that it can come to the table long before rationality.
     

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