i'm not entirely surely what this means, but it sounds kinda like some curious statements i've made about aliens which have people scratching their heads, wondering whether or not i'm for real, i.e. it just doesn't really say much of anything. yeah, that rubbing knocking stones together and shit and making fire--gotta go! oh? are you sure? well, let's pretend that we'll hold all the supposed acts and actions of "theism" accountable for theists and the acts and actions of "science" for scientists, 'kay? stupid, but we'll pretend. theists (qua theism): crusades, all that shit--i really don't need to enumerate all the abominations done in the name of religion, do i? scientists (qua science): weapons of mass destruction which have been used; countless technologies which seem to effectively make extinct, uh, how many species of plant and animal life every single day?; i could go on, but why bother? i think it is clear that on a numbers basis that scientists are the only people seriously concerned with killing one another (unless you aren't counting animals and stuff?), right? can you please learn to make distinctions between, you know, "theism," "theists," and shit like that; otherwise, frankly, you just don't make any fucking sense. oh,and while you're at it--how 'bout reformulating the OP for everybody so that it actually makes some sense? oh really???? very interesting. whatever, dude. start making some sense, please.