The Trump Presidency

This is some incredible tin-foil hat bullshit... I almost want to split this into its own thread in Conspiracies, it's that batshit crazy...

Not that what Hillary did was incredibly stupid, mind you - but that Russia was black mailing her and trying to help her in any way.

Anywho, doesn't matter what dirt anyone has on Clinton - we all know Trump will happily hand over the keys to the kingdom to anyone who asks him to talk about himself.

 

Log in or Sign up to hide all adverts.

It needs its own sub forum. It is too stupid for Conspiracies.

 

Log in or Sign up to hide all adverts.

Buchanan is discussing the possibility that all this moves toward a civil war: https://www.lewrockwell.com/2017/06/patrick-j-buchanan/civil-war-near/

 

Log in or Sign up to hide all adverts.

Don get your hopes up comrade. There have long been anarcho-capitalists and other assorted fringe elements of the right-wing, but they are fringe. And while the American right-wing has become more radicalized, they are mostly lesser educated older white men who really aren't capable of conducting civil war from their wheelchairs. Your dreams of a Putin like American empire subservient to your idol Putin are a bit premature.

 

Trump isn’t a lawyer. But he has a legal staff. He has several lawyers on staff, and he has used them to his advantage for decades. Trump isn’t a legal novice as you would have people believe. His has been sued and has been suing people his entire adult life.

Contrary to your assertion, Trump is an expert in “legal procedure games”. He has played those games throughout his entire adult lifetime. Per Trump’s own admission, he has filed lawsuits just to harass people, e.g. the man who wrote a book about him. Trump sued the author of "Trump Nation: The Art of Being the Donald" for asserting Trump was only worth $150 to $250 million dollars. Trump is on record as saying he knew he would lose the law suit, but filed it simply to harass the book's author.

http://abcnews.go.com/Business/story?id=8100467

Oh, so now lawyers have secret handshakes. Are you wearing your tinfoil hat?

It is illegal to obstruct justice and abuse power, and that’s what Trump is being accused of. When Trump took the oath of his office, he swore an oath to uphold the US Constitution. Trump doesn’t have the right to subvert the US Constitution. He has the duty to defend and enforce it.

Trump fired Comey to protect his ass: to obstruct a legal investigation. And that’s illegal.

Only if you ignore all the laws he has broken. Trump has a long history of lawbreaking beginning with but not limited to racial discrimination. Where is your evidence lawyers are stealing from the system? I’m guessing it’s with the secret lawyer handshakes. I see you are still wearing your tinfoil hats. How can rational people take you seriously comrade?

As you have been repeatedly told, you need to stop using Hillary Clinton as a crutch: a scapegoat. You have scapegoated her for nearly 30 years. She lost the election; your side won. You need to stop scapegoating her for your transgressions.

Two, you have been told several times now that’s not what the FBI found. After an extensive and through investigation of Hillary’s email server, the FBI found no evidence Hillary’s server was ever hacked by anyone much less a foreign power. Furthermore, there is no evidence of a Clinton-Russia conspiracy. Clinton’s associates weren’t meeting secretly before and after the election. It’s those damn facts again comrade. The fact is American intelligence agencies have found Russia intervened in our elections to elect your man Trump. The animosity your man Putin bears for Hillary Clinton is well known, and you want people to disbelieve our intelligence agencies in favor of your unfounded conspiracies?

One again for your edification comrade: https://www.washingtonpost.com/worl...26de2537a9d_story.html?utm_term=.9db4db636cfd

Hillary used a private email server to conduct public business as each of her Republican predecessors did and she was cleared of criminal wrong doing.

You folks need to stand on your own two feet now. Your party controls all 3 branches of government. You need to man up and take accountability. The buck stops with you. You need to stop blaming others and especially Democrats for your failures and faults. But you cannot do that, can you?

Russia had no fear? Then why did Russia intervene and make Syria surrender its chemical weapons to the United States?

And you have no evidence Hillary’s server was ever hacked by anyone much less the Russians. After an extensive investigation, the FBI found no evidence Hillary’s server was ever hacked. Why would Clinton and Obama need “smoke screens”? They aren’t in office. They aren’t running for office. And the FBI, after an extensive investigation, found no evidence of criminal wrong doing. Oops. It’s those damn facts again comrade.

Except it wasn’t a joke. Once again for your edification comrade:



https://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/28/us/politics/donald-trump-russia-clinton-emails.html?_r=0

The election is over comrade. You and your Republican comrades need to get over it. You won, and now it’s your responsibility to govern. You need to stop blaming your victims for your faults. This isn’t about the Clintons anymore. It’s about you. It’s about your man The Donald.

Democrats and a few Republicans are concerned about Russia's intervention in our last election and whatever role Trump and his associates played in that intervention as well they should be. Trump on the other hand isn't, and one has to wonder why. Trump has displayed an amazing disinterest in understanding how Russia intervened in our election. That lack of interest is something frequently seen in the guilty. They don't ask questions, because they know the answers.

At this point, it's a fact Russia intervened in our last election. The questions now are how and who participated in that conspiracy? What is Trump so afraid of that he would fire the FBI director to suppress it?

 

#cravenstupidity | #WhatTheyVotedFor​

Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!

Mr. Fish, Clowncrack, 30 November 2014.​

Well, you know, white supremacists are as white supremacists will.

And we're talking about someone who doesn't seem to know what email is, how it works, or what people use it for. One of the biggest mistakes we make is treating our neighbor in any serious context other than the depravity of his labor to depict himself as somehow dangerous to his fellow human beings. I mean, we all get that people can be dangerous to their fellow human beings; that part is self-evident. And it generally seems that some people can appear to be dangerous to their fellow human beings. Furthermore, while some people apparently choose to appear dangerous to their fellow human beings, occasionally we encounter people who, for whatever reasons, just can't seem to help but do it wrong. And these, like Wellwisher, present themselves as unreliable and potentially dangerous as a means of trying to convince people to trust them while they lie to us in ways they already know they can't back up.

There is a behavioral range at which the question of sinister or stupid becomes moot because the two conditions become inextricably intertwined and demonstrate seemingly obvious symptoms both of themselves and their interactions. That is to say, some people just aren't smart enough to comprehend why their behavior compels others to wonder at the question of, or difference 'twixt, sinister and stupid.

Supremacism will as supremacism does.

 

Notices SNL has stopped portraying Trump....wonders why top rating satire shut down?

 

The season is over. It ended last month. So you'll have to be satisfied with reruns until the next season begins in October. When the show returns I expect Trump will be back in their skits assuming Trump is still around.

 

oh.. ok...
Just been thinkin' that it will only be when people stop finding Trumps behavior as funny, humorous etc that his mental health problems will be taken seriously and then realized that SNL had stopped.

 

That is yet another false statement, intended to cover up the real world distinction between rightwing authoritarian propaganda and actual discussion or point of view; the false equivalency of the American authoritarian Right once again masquerading as a universal or disinterested cynicism.

You can't seem to learn to avoid what you are incapable of evaluating.
Pat Buchanan is a familiar figure to followers of the rise of fascism in the US. So is Lew Rockwell. Nothing Pat says should be taken as meaning what the words mean. He wants a civil war, only this time a different winner.

He has 80% support in their hometown primary voting constituency. If they don't get the Trump vote, they lose their seat in Congress.

 

Fiction:
"The start of the "Trump Ban" -anti corruption Protests, outside the gates to the White House started slowly but as we all know social media has a tendency to speed time up, so much so that by the end of the second day, what will go down in history as the largest and most significant peaceful protest the world has ever seen, over 1 million people gathered with loud banners, placards and silent voices.
By the end of the fourth day the numbers had grown to a staggering 20 million with numbers growing constantly."

Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!

Seoul - demonstrations - Feb - 2017 - anti corruption
Venezuela. anti corruption
Brazil. anti corruption
Russia. anti corruption

Could it happen ?

 

What approx. percentage to the whole adult population of the USA? (Including those who have not voted.)

 

Doesn't matter. These are Congressmen - they answer to their districts, specifically the Republican voters in their districts.

 

It only matters when the silent majority is being impacted on by a vocal minority and when the very premise of the system they love so much is being destroyed by those they believed they could trust. ( non-partisan )

 

I believe that that is a terribly restricted view of "congressmen" who have pledged to represent all people in his district and further, pledged allegiance to the constitution.

 

While I concur with Iceaura that the tactical reality demands attention to the congressional districts, start with the basic presidential vote: 62,894,925

Numbers through the eleventh put Republican support at 83%.

(62894925) ⋅ (.83) = 52202787.75​

We'll round up to avoid any need to clean up the blood: 52,202,788

2016 year-end estimated U.S. population estimate: 322,762,018

52202788 ÷ 322762018 = 0.161737705​

So, the thing is that Congressional numbers are harder to find and derive; the approximate numbers I'm finding are D 42.2m | 39.3m R

Congressional support numbers by party are harder to find; I'm still looking for Republican approval of Congressional Republicans, but if we try a recent (one-week through 6 June) 19/73/7 split, how does that work out? If we mimic presidential numbers and give Democrats 7 of those approval points, that leaves twelve to the Republicans. The product, four-million seven hundred sixteen thousand works out to a useless figure under one and a half percent (0.014611385).

Here's a magic number from the 2014 midterm: 92,251,000. And that was a terrible year. 38.5% compared to total voting-age population; 41.9% of voting-age citizens; 64.9% of registered voters.

This year's presidential result tallied over 128,000,000 votes; next year's midterm turnout is a mystery. I forget what goes here because that 92m number ... I must have missed something along the way because it was way too hard to find until I tripped over it by accident in a Census bureau bar graph.

Oh, well. Yeah, all that just to say that looking forward is a mystery.

 

Would you say that Presidents pseudo mandate is acquired only from a small percentage (<20%) of the adult population (voting age - not just eligibility)?

 

Maybe put it this way:
How strong is the Presidents mandate? (USA wide)

 

Well, yes. Republicans always complain that a Democrat's "mandate" comes from less than half the population. It's a common trope in American politics, though it might well be worth reminding now, as you do, because, quite frankly, we're in a period of forgetting our own history in order to accommodate and assimilate our present. History will view the Trump election and presidency as a legitimate cultural trauma; the danger is that we will continue to break down.

 

The bottom line is that the Presidents mandate is only present because the majority of USA citizens remain silent. (Hence the term pseudo mandate as it really is no mandate at all)