The Trump Presidency

Discussion in 'Politics' started by joepistole, Jan 17, 2017.

  1. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    Trump is moving so fast, he is way behind previous administrations. Hundreds of senior jobs remain unfilled, and as a result and contrary to your assertion, Trump has asked Obama's appointees to say on.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...mp-transition-cabinet-behind-schedule/511928/
    http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/315049-trump-keeping-50-obama-administration-officials
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articl...ion-team-on-reports-of-chaos-we-got-this.html

    Actually, the Trump organization is moving very slowly compared to past administrations. And as Kittamaru has pointed out, Trump has announced he is going on vacation after the inauguration.

    You obviously haven't been paying attention, as is your custom; Obamacare has been targeted by Republicans, including Trump, for 8 years now. The Republican targeting of Obamacare has absolutely nothing to do with whatever Democrats might or might not do going forward and it has everything to do with Republican election prospects going forward. If Republicans screw up Obamacare, it's their problem. And while the Republican base remains oblivious as is their custom and demonstrated by your repeated posts, senior Republican leaders are not.

    You just can't get your head out of those right wing conspiracies, can you? You cannot support any of your machinations with evidence and reason because they are fictions. You have no evidence Democrats have tried to throw sand in the gears, and Russian sanctions are a punishment for Russia's repeated invasions, occupations, and annexation of the lands of neighboring states and for its meddling in our election. It's a punishment, for bad behavior. Contrary to your assertion, Russia's hacking of Democratic servers became known 6 months ago, not one year ago.

    Unfortunately for you and your Republican cohorts, fact and reason matter for those who haven't drank the right wing Kool-Aid.

    Trump inherits an economy growing at annualized rate of 3.5%. He inherits an economy with an unemployment rate of 4.7% and very near full employment. That's what Trump inherits from his Democratic predecessor. That's very different from what Trump's predecessor, i.e. Obama, inherited from his Republican predecessor. Obama inherited an economy shrinking at an annualized rate of 10% and losing nearly a million jobs a month. Obama inherited an economic disaster from his Republican predecessor.

    Those are hard facts Comrade Wellwisher.

    Trump has already shown his cards, and they aren't good. People keep expecting Trump to change, i.e. "to show his cards", because they cannot believe this man is going to be the POTUS. The truth is Trump has already shown his cards.
     
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  5. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    I've noticed the similarities.
     
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  7. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    I don't care much for Trump . He succeeded economically in his life . And many critics are just envious .
     
  8. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    Trump was born into great wealth. That was the key to his success. Were it not for his good fortune, being born the son of America's wealthiest man, Trump would be nothing more than a used car salesman.
     
  9. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    This is really interesting.

    For starters, the parable has been carefully rewritten from any of the original versions (http://www.bartleby.com/17/1/62.html ,
    Real life American solution 1, approaching the bridge, : hand all your stuff to the conservative who promises to put it in his bank safe for you, have the donkey carry you and the liberal half way across the bridge, and as soon as you can see the other side kick the liberal off for telling you you've been robbed and push the donkey over the rail because you don't need it.

    Real life American solution 2, approaching the bridge: give the donkey to the conservative because he knows how to manage donkeys, have the liberal help you carry the stuff across the bridge, and half way across push the liberal and half your stuff over the rail because he tells you a donkey would have been a lot of help.

    And so forth.

    Notice, btw, the central discordance between the fable as oddly rewritten from the original and handed to us by the rightwing media ops,

    (in the original of this one man one donkey one load setup, the peasant has begun by distributing the load between both himself and his donkey, competently avoiding overburdening either one - and it is by overburdening the donkey with all his goods, the "conservative" advice above, that he loses the animal, who drowns crossing a stream without a bridge).

    and the US political situation: the wrong person is supposedly influencing the poor man by laughing at him. In matching up the analogy, not only is the "conservative" overload-the-donkey now both competent and agreeing with the peasant's common sense, but the conservative is the supposedly the one laughing at the poor guy for being foolish.

    In the US media ops, other than this story, we see the opposite of both - the "conservative" , who disagrees with the original peasant's common sense of splitting the load, is presented as sympathetic while the "liberal" is presented as disrespecting by laughter and mockery.

    That's kind of intriguing. It points to the irrelevance of content generally, the complete lack of coherent substance, in the Nameless Ones's propaganda operations. This is not inherently "post-truth" , which is revealed to be a side effect, but rather post-fact - even in the fictional scenes. The world is at any given moment what is seen on a screen at that moment, and continuity is (deliberately?) destroyed.
     
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  10. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Still haven't read the links provided you multiple times, apparently. Why not?

    It damages the criticism of Trump, to associate it with exaggerations and falsehoods of that kind.
    We've seen it already, in 2001 and 2002. W&Co had put the entire country under NSA surveillance, created and established the largest and most comprehensive increase in Federal bureaucracy since WWII, revamped the upper level management of every major Federal agency, and launched two full scale land wars in Asia (Minor), within less than three years. And that's just the highlights.
     
  11. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    It damages you to make these stupid statements. You are trolling yet again.
     
  12. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    So, in Seattle the protest is basically an exercise in trying to peacefully wander around in the middle of the street for hours on end. It works well enough, I suppose, and has some symbolic value, as a form, compared to what happened in '99 when the WTO blew through town.

    Meanwhile, there is also a demonstration over at University of Washington because someone invited Milo Yiannopoulos, and there was a great moment on the local news when the reporter advised, approximately, "Word is there are more protesters on the way, taking light rail from Westlake."

    It's one of the funniest things I've heard in a while.
     
  13. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    I am not sure you or I read well into Trump history . whatever his father left and what he made with it since .
     
  14. joepistole Deacon Blues Valued Senior Member

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    Trump has a long history of running his companies into bankruptcy.
     
  15. Randwolf Ignorance killed the cat Valued Senior Member

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  17. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Staff Member

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    Did you catch the part where officials are claiming stunning incompetence in order to explain the sparsely populated parade route?
     
  18. Syne Sine qua non Valued Senior Member

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    Or much more likely, the blue collar workers were at work during the work week. Welfare recipients had the free time in 2009.
     
  19. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    wow thats not racist at all oh wait yes it is.
     
  20. Syne Sine qua non Valued Senior Member

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    Wow! So only minorities are on welfare? Now THAT'S a racist assumption. How do you live with yourself?

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  21. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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  22. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    cute the racist is calling me a racist because i called him on his bullshit
     
  23. Syne Sine qua non Valued Senior Member

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    Haven't forgotten at all. "By August" of 2009 was 6 months into Obama's first term. LOL!

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    How exactly does that bear on his inaugural turnout?


    Nope. The clear bullshit is you equating "welfare recipient" with a specific ethnicity. You can keep calling me names all you like, but it won't change the fact that you slipped up and admitted your own racist stereotypes. That's what happens when your too eager to sling unsupported ad hominems and too lazy or ignorant to think before you type.

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    One more chance. How is what I wrote racist, aside from the racist stereotype you supplied yourself?

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