The tides are the result of the rotation of the Earth and the whirlpools

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  1. Fermer05 Registered Member

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    Tides and ebbs are formed not along the entire coast of the seas and oceans, but only in those coasts where the high angular velocity of the currents (1-5 km / h).
    On the rectilinear coasts, where currents do not have angular velocity, tides and ebbs do not form.
    With an increase in the angular velocity of the current in the north of the Sea of Okhotsk (10 km / h), the height of the tides in the Penzhina Bay increases to 12 meters.
    http://tapemark.narod.ru/more/41.png
    With an increase in the angular velocity of the current in the north of the Gulf of Maine (15 km / h), the height of the tides in the Bay of Fundy rises to 18 meters.
    https://goo.gl/images/cWTVG4
    http://www.gulfofmaine-census.org/wp-content/images/circulation/fig4.jpg
    "Record high tide in the Bay of Fundy - 21.6 meters - occurred only once in the history of observations, on the night of October 4 to October 5 in 1869 under the influence of the cyclone Saxby Gale."
    On the night of October 4 to 5, in 1869, under the influence of the cyclone Saxby Gale, "a record rainfall fell over the river basins flowing into the Bay of Fundy (300 mm in one day), so that the waters of the Bay of Fundy poured into the Gulf of Maine and increased the speed of rotation a whirlpool in the Gulf of Maine.
    http://www.gulfofmaine.org/ebm/toolkitsurvey/images/exec-sum-2.jpg
    Cyclone Saxby Gale rotating counter-clockwise, also contributed to the unraveling of the whirlpool.
    In an abnormally cold winter and during a drought, when rivers flowing into the Bay of Fundy merge, the height of the tides does not exceed 1 meter.
    https://www.tide-forecast.com/locations/Fundy-Offshore-1-Nova-Scotia/tides/latest
    Table: The dependence of the amplitude of the tides of the Bay of Fundy, on the flow velocity in the north of the Gulf of Maine.
    1 km / h - 5 m
    5 km / h - 10 m
    10 km / h - 15 m
    15 km / h - 20 m

    The average speed of the current in the English Channel is: 12-13 km / h near the city of Portland. Great Britain, 15-18.5 km / h at Cape Ag France.
    The maximum height of the tides is 15 m (the city of Saint-Malo, France).
    https:/.../m.youtube.com/watch?v=JdEkHGZMh8I
    https:/.../m.youtube.com/watch?v=JNOpJxfI_Mg
    http://geosfera.org/evropa/718-la-mansh-proliv-mezhdu-angliey-i-franciey.html
    https: // m.youtube.com/watch?v=M44miAiHhrk

    "Lunar tidal current" moving from the Indian Ocean from east to west, crashing into the eastern shore of the island of Madagascar, contrary to expectations creates zero tides. And the abnormally high tidal wave for some reason arises between the island of Madagascar and the eastern coast of Africa. Wikipedia explains this discrepancy by the reflection of waves and by the fact that the Coriolis force is doing its job.
    And the real reason for this inconsistency is the giant whirlpool, revolving around the island of Madagascar at a speed of 9 km / h, and precessing the reflecting tidal wave towards the eastern coast of Africa.
    https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Течение_мыса_Игольного
    https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Мозамбикское_течение
    http://ffden-2.phys.uaf.edu/645fall2003_web.dir/ellie_boyce/tidal types fig.gif
    The amplitude of the tides depends on the size of the current, the speed of the current, the direction of the current, the amount of water under the current
     
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  3. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    Gee, that sounds sciency.
     
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  5. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Tides do indeed form on ALL coasts. You can easily prove this to yourself through direct observation.

    Your theory is debunked.
     
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  7. nebel Valued Senior Member

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    Tides are even created in the middle of continents, not just the coasts. I is a heaving toward heaven. but then
    The situation in the oceans is fluid, and even if the OP or post #181 have some correlations, who will see it among the fog of data?
     
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  8. nebel Valued Senior Member

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    well yeah, but consider that the bigger equator radius is a bulge created by rotational velocity, not gravity from far away. Now, if you could locally reduce that velocity on the total system ( all forces acting on it), you would have bulges created by kinetics, not gravity. Such situations exist on Jupiter and Saturn, see "Jupiter Orbital--" thread in Amateur Astronomy Forum above.
    sorry Fermer 05, not hijacking your thread, some what related: Whirlpools have kinetic component forces too.
     
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  9. Fermer05 Registered Member

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    It is believed that the maximum tides are formed in the new moon and the minimum tides are formed in a quadrature. Has anyone tested this? (Minimal tides are formed in a full moon)?
     
  10. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    I have to hope you'll provide references in the future, my friends at Purdue are having a ball with this.
     
  11. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    Just about every sailor has known for the last several centuries that spring tides are on the full and new moon, and neap tides on the half moons. Any book of tide tables will confirm it.
     
  12. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    We know Neanderthals ate crustaceans found in the tidal pools. Knowledge of the tidal cycles would be important if they wanted to be safely ashore before the tide turned.
     
  13. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Nope. No one has ever observed the tides. They are always a surprise to mariners, surfers, fishermen and the Navy; that's one reason no one live near the oceans. Only you have any insight into the complete mystery that is tides.
     
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  14. Michael 345 Bali in Nov closer Valued Senior Member

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    Being subtle is not your strong point is it?

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  16. origin In a democracy you deserve the leaders you elect. Valued Senior Member

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    As usual you have it backwards. The moon (and the sun to a lesser extent) cause the tides which in turn cause a current, so of course there is correlation.
    The whirlpool conjecture is a complete mistake. You are so enamored by your idea that you can't see this - but this is what the pseudoscience section is for, so enjoy.
     
  17. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    Well, you have to take Earth and turn it on its side, then shake it. After that the theory works.
     
  18. origin In a democracy you deserve the leaders you elect. Valued Senior Member

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    Ahhh, I see you are wise in the ways of science...

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  19. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    What? You've never heard of "Snow Globe Earth"?
     
  20. Michael 345 Bali in Nov closer Valued Senior Member

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    Sssssshhhh the Flat Earthers don't think we exist

    Meantime we are harvesting the snow at the ring of ice

    Soon my lovelies it will all be ours

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    Snow Globe rules

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  21. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    I have determined that the tides where I live match the tide tables printed by the San Diego Lifeguard Service, and posted on the info board near Solana Beach. The conclusion here is clear - lifeguards cause tides.
     
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  22. Michael 345 Bali in Nov closer Valued Senior Member

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    Baywatch has a lot to answer for

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  23. Gawdzilla Sama Valued Senior Member

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    I'll question Erika Eleniak.
     

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