New thread because I'm not saying anything in defence of Space aliens. I found this video by Mick West interesting on the tic tac ufo. This tic tac ('' go fast'') video is just over 6 minutes but comes up with a speed of 20 to 40 knots for the tic tac. Also 6 to 7 feet long and 13,000 feet high. West does this by using the instrument readings on the screen. By the way, lookout for the kids balloon ''shooting'' across the background. Also note at the end of video the form for this Navy video release ''Pulice release of Department of Defence information'' mentions balloons. Watch the video to see how this comes about.