The Syrian "Revolution": A Farce from Beginning to End

Discussion in 'World Events' started by ExposingAmericanLies, Jun 18, 2013.

  1. ExposingAmericanLies Registered Member

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    Nearly three years ago, the world watched as the media presented its typical narrative on Syria: the "people", tired of "evil dictatorship", were "rising up" for "freedom and democracy", backed by the greatest bastion of freedom and democracy in the world, the United States of America (*ahem* as well as Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Jordan, etc, but let's forget about those, shall we.....? Too embarrassing for them)

    What we have seen is the resilience of the Syrian people against foreign agendas and conspiracies similar to the resilience of the Cuban people against the CIA-trained counter-revolutionaries that tried to take down Cuba Libre; what we have seen is a resilience similar to the resilience of the Vietnamese people against US-sponsored imperialism, as the United States intervened on behalf of the landlords and big businesses of the unpopular Diem government.


    There are two main points that need to be addressed regarding the Syrian situation: a) the uprising is not popular at all, and is losing popularity; and b) the petty, childish appeal-to-emotion that people employ when demonizing Assad is unproductive at best, and deceptive at worst. Day in and day out, from the mainstream Western news media sources, all you hear is how Assad is "murdering his own people", as if Syrian troops roll into a new town and open fire on people for no other reason than because it delights them, because they are apparently inhuman monsters incapable of thought or feeling; as if, in the midst of this great and treacherous war, Assad deploys air strikes and artillery strikes for shits and giggles.........in other words, as if Assad and the entire Syrian Army are nothing more than cartoon characters.

    Whether or not innocent people have died as a result of the Syrian government, it is childish and silly to pretend like there is anything to be gained by Dr. Assad's government by the indiscriminate killing of random people simply for the sake of killing...I would not even ascribe such silliness to the Syrian "rebels", who have abundant reasons to murder indiscriminately as it is, such as religious extremism.

    It is, of course, always funny, in a sad sort of way, when the media focuses on the "crimes" of Assad while totally ignoring the crimes of the Saudi regime, backed by the West, as well as the crimes of Obama, Cameron, and his lackies. Why focus on democracy in Syria when there is no democracy in the United States?

    But I digress: the Syrian uprising is no such thing; it is a poor attempt at violent regime change in the region for the benefit of the Gulf States, and the detriment of Iran. It is business. Principles do not enter into the equation, and that seriously believe that these sorts of things are easily reducible to "good vs evil" are silly and liberal (by liberal, I don't mean "Liberal" as it is used in American theatrics).


    The narrative has unfolded over the years. What was painted as a "popular uprising" has been exposed as a poorly engineered sham; the majority of Syrians strongly prefer the Assad government, which has implemented changes, by the way, in case you missed it; the new Constitution of Syria was updated years ago, and is available online,

    The reality is that secular nationalism must triumph over both Islamic extremism, as well as foreign agendas (most notably that of the United States). Obama DOES NOT HAVE THE RIGHT TO DEMAND THE OVERTHROW OR RESIGNATION OF A FOREIGN LEADER. Read a history book about modern Syria before you indulge in petty, emotional talk of "freedom and democracy"; the Middle East demands delicate balances of power, which Assad represents; that is, the balance of power between the sects and the various political forces, mainly nationalist and fundamentalist.

    It is not as simple as "Assad is evil". If you are going to honestly evaluate a world leader, you must examine context, history, and political necessity. As such, I applaud Assad and his government for their heroic resistance to American evil and imperialism.

    Here is a fantastic analysis of the "revolution" in Syria. I already know somebody will point out that this is from RT and refuse to read it or acknowledge; but then I might question their sources, because I am most certain that CNN, Fox News, and the BBC are hardly better.

    Can't post links, but it's on rt right now, called "Syria in depth analysis"
     
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  3. spidergoat Venued Serial Membership Valued Senior Member

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    Thank you Putin. Now give us back our Superbowl ring.
     
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  5. AlexG Like nailing Jello to a tree Valued Senior Member

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    Another shill for Assad.
     
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  7. andy1033 Truth Seeker Valued Senior Member

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    Well what ever people say, he still must have enough support in his country to hang on in there.

    In every country of this world, there is a minority that hate the gov.

    Thats what the press call the rebels, but in every country a minority hate the ruling party or elites. But the media push the idea, thats there is not this sort of minority in every country.

    Uk/usa tactics are to find these minorities, then claim they are the majority wanting there rule.

    But are they really? Are these rebels so popular really?
     
  8. ExposingAmericanLies Registered Member

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    So, according to you, there is NO Syrian that supports Assad? Not a single one?

    I could spend all day explaining to you how many Syrians support President Assad and you'd still deny it, because you are stubborn and deceived. Looks like you're another pro-FSA shill.

    AlexG is on the record: not a single Syrian supports Assad. Nope. Not even one. We all love the FSA and the USA for providing freedom and democracy!
     
  9. ExposingAmericanLies Registered Member

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    Nope. I am Syrian (Greek Orthodox), and I live in the USA although with much family in Syria and I visit now and then. Virtually NOBODY supports the uprising; certainly not now.

    Eating organs doesn't exactly endear people to your cause.
     
  10. ExposingAmericanLies Registered Member

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    Since I'm already classified as a "shill", because apparently no Syrian could possible support Dr. Assad (despite the fact that a simple search would show otherwise), I'm not going to bother coming back here. Fuck off if you support imperialism.

    Good day.
     
  11. Aqueous Id flat Earth skeptic Valued Senior Member

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    If you're worried about imperialism you should be against all monarchy and all suppression of the right of consent of the governed.
     
  12. spidergoat Venued Serial Membership Valued Senior Member

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    I support being able to demonstrate against one's government without getting murdered.
     
  13. Russ_Watters Not a Trump supporter... Valued Senior Member

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    Pic doesn't look like Putin to me...
     
  14. Username Registered Senior Member

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    Do you have any reasons why Americans should support Assad or why Americans should support the rebels? For the most part Americans don't support either or.
     
  15. arauca Banned Banned

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    In reality it is non of our business what goes on in that part of the world, Who appointed us to tell them what to do. I go back to Cuban case Batista Vs Fidel Castro , We supported democracy and it turn to me and other dictatorship . Why don't we park our ass in our continent and them take care or their own .
     
  16. Motor Daddy ☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼☼ Valued Senior Member

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    Do you know the difference between being reactive and proactive? Our "business" is to ensure our safety and our well being. In order to do that we need to make it our business to not just react, but to also be proactive in our own defense. In order to be proactive in our own defense we need to look beyond our own borders to stop any potential problems from spreading like wild fires that could possibly burn our house down at a later date.

    If your job is to keep your house from burning, do you sit inside and close the curtains and wait until your house is on fire to throw water on it? Don't you think it would be a better plan to open the curtains and throw water on any small brush fires that occur next to your house, before they turn into big fires that will burn your house down? What you are saying is that it's none of your business what fires are in your neighbor's yard, because that's his yard, and it's only your business when it's your house that's on fire. Go ahead, close the curtains and wait until your house is on fire and then start filling water buckets and let me know how that works out. (rolls eyes)
     
  17. youreyes amorphous ocean Valued Senior Member

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    It's an American way to joke, trashing other countries. Millionaires do it. Regular folks do it.
     
  18. Buddha12 Valued Senior Member

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    It is the dictator against the terrorists, which one is the better? Who would you support? Both kill innocent citizens who get in their way and both want to control to do as they want to do to their citizens.
     
  19. youreyes amorphous ocean Valued Senior Member

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    "None of _____ business" is the correct way of saying it. What business does USA have in Syria? none. So GTFO.

    Mindling with internal affairs of another country by instigating a media war to demonize an unliked politician and than supporting terrorists, is what USA is doing.
     
  20. Arioch Valued Senior Member

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    Bullshit. We do business with that part of the world, therefore we have a stake in what goes on in that part of the world. We have a right to see that our interests aren't threatened(unless those interests happen to interfere with the wellbeing of the people who actually live there, of course), and a right to defend our interests if they are threatened, just like every single other country on this planet. We currently have a number of large and costly investments in that part of the world(not that I agree with all of these investments), so it makes perfect, fucking, sense that we would take action to protect those investments.
     
  21. CptBork Robbing the Shalebridge Cradle Valued Senior Member

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    If there's a group of Syrians being massacred for protesting, and they beg for outside intervention to spare their lives and their fundamental rights, what right do Russia, Iran, Hezbollah and an ethnic minority of Syrians have to decide who has a legitimate right to intervene on the protesters' behalf? Obviously we must be extremely cautious in how we get involved, and try our best not to repeat mistakes of the past and make things even worse, but the conflict is our business precisely because millions of innocent victims of the slaughter asked that we make it our business.
     
  22. youreyes amorphous ocean Valued Senior Member

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    Obviously CptBork you dont realize how US media is portraying the whole Syrican conflict as the suffering Syrians asking for help bull**** lies. Iran and Russian and Hezbollah have been long time friends of Syria and supplied it not just weapons but also economical support. US isnt happy that it couldnt get a piece of the pie, thus the support for radicals and the view of the suffrage. The bloodier the better. I say this once again none of US business to be there, they screwed over Lybia and got their oil, screwed off Egypt, and now want Iran. No thank you, keep your hands off.
     
  23. CptBork Robbing the Shalebridge Cradle Valued Senior Member

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    Those so-called friends you named seem to think that sending in UN observers to watch them blowing everyone up would contradict the interests of the people being randomly shot at. Don't worry, I won't listen to the propaganda. I'll bet if I voiced my concerns to Nasrallah in person, he'd simply offer to buy me a drink and we'd clear up all the confusion over whiskey. Tell me, since you seem to know them so well, how many times have these "friends" called for a ceasefire and free democratic elections to resolve the conflict?

    If it's all about oil, then please explain why the US is stalling on its approval of the Keystone pipeline from Canada on environmental grounds? I don't even know what you're blaming them for, their weapons haven't even been shipped yet, it's all been regional players on the rebel side so far (oooooohhh and a few dozen fighters from western countries, really tilts the conflict away from the Syrian people doesn't it?). Yeah, I'm sure Putin loses plenty of sleep worrying about what ordinary Syrians actually want just like he stresses over the plight of the poor Chechens, and Iran's deeply concerned by the gradual decline and extermination of Christians throughout the middle east.

    Obviously you distrust the west's motives in Syria, but would you not also agree that Syria must have free democratic elections, and Assad must get the boot if he loses them?
     
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