The Sun Is Not Hot

Discussion in 'Pseudoscience' started by chung, Jun 12, 2013.

  1. chung Registered Member

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    I found the lead for more worthy teachers. You wise guys here must attend these conventions:
    [video=youtube_share;t8tqgntbjyE]http://youtu.be/t8tqgntbjyE[/video]

    These scientists still have the capacity to question the current paradigms in place.
     
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  3. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    It looks quite interesting, so far as I've got, but why
    do you want us to watch nearly 5 hours of video
    about something that has nothing to do with the OP?
     
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  5. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Well, he is definitely hoping you do!
     
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  7. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    The first 5 minutes is interesting. It was saying that the great pyramid with a ground base of over 14 acres, is square to half an inch.
    I've probably got the details a bit wrong, but something like that.
    Could that be true? It sounds incredible.
    If it is true, I'll watch some more of it.

    Added later.
    Other people say the same thing.
    I'll try to watch another 5 minutes today.
     
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  8. chung Registered Member

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    Our science and history is only a remembering of the knowledge of previous versions of man before our current model of humanity. We were rebooted already and previous link was intentionally severed.

    Cold fusion is a reality that is slowly getting disclosed and it is a less destructive form of energy that can serve as the model for the sun.


    Aside from Kaku's theory that suns can be white hole ejecting what they capture from other realms, Plasma Cosmology is another interesting model.

    Plasma Physics and electrical universe model can also better explain the sun, the corona discharges and photonic discharges that do not necessarily consume the mass of the sun. The aurora phenomena is an example of plasma formation in space that do not translate to hot temperature.

    Here are scientists who are slowly advancing a better understanding of the sun and cosmology:
    [video=youtube_share;NH5RKT1DQC4]http://youtu.be/NH5RKT1DQC4[/video]

    These scientists could be insiders. The standard model so far advanced by the academe is constantly needing ad hoc explanatory accretions that is better and simpler understood by plasma and electrical universe model.

    [video=youtube_share;8hiv9yT7BhA]http://youtu.be/8hiv9yT7BhA[/video]
     
  9. alphareign Registered Member

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    This is wrong on three accounts:
    1. The sun is indeed extremely hot. It is some 27 million fahrenheit in it's core, 10,000 degrees fahrenheit on it's surface and about a million degrees in it's atmosphere. The sun is after all a nuclear reaction and nuclear reactions generate huge amounts of heat.

    2. Heat does not need a carrier medium because it can travel in the form of electromagnetic radiation called infrared. Also, ultraviolet rays can generated tremendous heat too. The glass part of an incandescent light bulb gets very hot and yet some incandescent light bulbs are full of a vacuum. How does the heat travel from the filament through a vacuum to the glass? I.R. is how.

    3. Most of the heating done to the air by sunlight is done after the sunlight heats the ground and the ground radiates the heat outward.
     
  10. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    [QUOTE="alphareign, post: 3473556,

    3. Most of the heating done to the air by sunlight is done after the sunlight heats the ground and the ground radiates the heat outward.[/QUOTE]

    Why are you saying that , since some of the heat is absorbed by the ground then the difference is reflected
     
  11. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Some is absorbed and then re-radiated at night, some is reflected directly.
    All of it came from the sun.
    No sun, no warm ground, no re-radiation.
     
  12. river Valued Senior Member

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    Hmmm....none works

    However

    Go to youtube , search ; A Plasma Universe ? part 1 , will get you there .
     
  13. river Valued Senior Member

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    Plasma Physics' Answers to the New Cosmological Questions by Dr. Donald E. Scott-Full video.

    Doesn't work

    However if you go youtube and put in this title you will get there . Buy the way NASA is involved , enjoy .
     
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  14. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    I guess you don't believe there is heat generation from nuclear decay and a minor heat coming from the core trough volcanoes , but that is ok.
     
  15. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Oh for Pete's sake Tim; this is the second time in just a few days you've lost track of your own argument:

    Direct response, quoting the above:
    You were referencing specifically the sunlight alphareign mentioned when you directly quoted him.

    As was I, by extension, when I directly quoted you:
     
  16. origin Trump is the best argument against a democracy. Valued Senior Member

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    Maybe he just strongly disagrees with himself.

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  17. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Not really. There is some heat generation from nuclear decay, but it's about 0.03% of the energy coming from the sun. (47 terawatts vs 173,000 terawatts.)
     
  18. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    No, it's not. It has never been demonstrated. Every attempt has failed.
    For plasmas you need either very low pressures (auroras, fluorescent bulbs) or very high temperatures (the Sun.)
     
  19. river Valued Senior Member

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    Very low pressures ? Auroras ?
     
  20. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Yes. Very low pressures. Auroras are an example.
     
  21. river Valued Senior Member

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    How are Auroras an example of very low pressures ? And what kind of pressures ?

    And where do these pressures come from ?
     
  22. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    If I remember right , to have a low pressure discharge it was around 1mm Hg, in a bell jar
     
  23. river Valued Senior Member

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    And so........
     

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