The sun has been shine for billions of years, where all the photons go?

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  1. jcc Registered Senior Member

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    You are talking about light mill. It does not work in vacuum. Light/photon has no momentum.

    If light has momentum, light mill will work in vacuum.

    Light is gravitational vibration force between separated atoms/matters. Gravity is the force carrier.

    Mass/atom m vibrates at f will produce f x m x c gravity/force/gravitational momentum at vibration direction. If there is mass/matter in the direction, it will sense the force and energy is transferred that way.
     
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  3. origin Heading towards oblivion Valued Senior Member

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    Here https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crookes_radiometer
     
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    A Crooke's radiometer spins with the black face trailing under low vacuum, due to more energetic interaction of the black face with massive air molecules. At higher vacuum, it spins in the opposite direction, as you would expect from the physical difference between massless photon elastic, inelastic collisions.

    Curry and Ivy did a nice film demonstrating this experiment.
     
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  7. origin Heading towards oblivion Valued Senior Member

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    Please stop posting pseudoscience in the science section. Reported.
     
  8. jcc Registered Senior Member

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    What is conduction? Vibration force/atom kinetic energy transfer by contact?

    What is resistance heating? Resistance caused atoms to vibrate faster to produce/emit heat/ phonos?

    Hot water vibrate faster/stronger, because absorbed a lot of photons? What's the mechanism?
     
  9. jcc Registered Senior Member

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    Do you know in vacuum that thing does not spin at all?

    How you explain the fact? Isn't photon has momentum?
     
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    Current passes through carbon wire will produce heat and light radiation, what's the mechanism? Resistance lighting/heating?

    1. Current makes electrons in carbon atoms changing orbitals and emit photons and phonos?

    2. Current makes carbon atoms vibrate at a band of frequency and produce a band of gravitational radiation?
     
  11. origin Heading towards oblivion Valued Senior Member

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    Same questions over and over. Same pseudoscience over and over. I really wonder how long the mods are going to put up with you.
     
  12. Kittamaru Ashes to ashes, dust to dust. Adieu, Sciforums. Valued Senior Member

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    jcc, you have officially worn out your welcome. You continuously post the same handful of pseudoscientific bullshit questions in the science subsections despite repeated warnings not to do so. Goodbye.
     
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  13. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    jcc:

    I'm not sure that it doesn't work in a vacuum. Some web pages say that. Probably it's correct that the toy you buy at the museum shop won't work in a vacuum. Light pressure has been measured in other ways (e.g. Nichols radiometer), so light definitely has momentum.

    Also, there's independent evidence that light has momentum. For example, laser cooling wouldn't work if light didn't have momentum (and it demonstrably does, in case you're wondering).

    Not necessarily. If the light pressure is too low to overcome friction in the bearings, it won't spin.

    That can't be correct, because gravitational forces work differently from light.

    I have no idea what this means. Perhaps you should try explaining your claim and the evidence that supports it in more detail (perhaps in a separate thread).

    Yes.

    More or less.

    It needn't have anything to do with photons. Put a hot object in contact with a cold one and the hot one will shake the atoms of the cold one, causing them to heat. No light is involved.

    Yes.

    Yes. That's part of it.

    No. Any gravitational radiation produced would be utterly undetectable. Gravity is a very weak force.
     
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