The Relevance of the Concept of God

Discussion in 'Religion' started by Syne, Oct 15, 2013.

  1. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    Can God know evil exist? If he knows evil exist he could be corrupted he can be un-perfect. I know evil exist. May God know evil in the name of justice? Does he just know all things?
     
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  3. cslewis Registered Member

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    Here's the answer to your queries:
    [QUOTE='THE URANTIA PAPERS' divine revelation](Page.paragraph) Paper:section.paragraph
    (1429.1) 130:1.5 Jesus’ last visit with Gadiah had to do with a discussion of good and evil. This young Philistine was much troubled by a feeling of injustice because of the presence of evil in the world alongside the good. He said: “How can God, if he is infinitely good, permit us to suffer the sorrows of evil; after all, who creates evil?” It was still believed by many in those days that God creates both good and evil, but Jesus never taught such error. In answering this question, Jesus said: “My brother, God is love; therefore he must be good, and his goodness is so great and real that it cannot contain the small and unreal things of evil. God is so positively good that there is absolutely no place in him for negative evil. Evil is the immature choosing and the unthinking misstep of those who are resistant to goodness, rejectful of beauty, and disloyal to truth. Evil is only the misadaptation of immaturity or the disruptive and distorting influence of ignorance. Evil is the inevitable darkness which follows upon the heels of the unwise rejection of light. Evil is that which is dark and untrue, and which, when consciously embraced and willfully endorsed, becomes sin.
    (1429.2) 130:1.6 “Your Father in heaven, by endowing you with the power to choose between truth and error, created the potential negative of the positive way of light and life; but such errors of evil are really nonexistent until such a time as an intelligent creature wills their existence by mischoosing the way of life. And then are such evils later exalted into sin by the knowing and deliberate choice of such a willful and rebellious creature. This is why our Father in heaven permits the good and the evil to go along together until the end of life, just as nature allows the wheat and the tares to grow side by side until the harvest.” Gadiah was fully satisfied with Jesus’ answer to his question after their subsequent discussion had made clear to his mind the real meaning of these momentous statements.[/QUOTE]
     
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  5. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    Bad things happen every day to good people. How can Jesus remain passive in a world in which negative things have been born.
     
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  7. cslewis Registered Member

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    [QUOTE='THE URANTIA PAPERS' divine revelation to humanity](2076.4) 195:5.13 When there is so much good truth to publish and proclaim, why should men dwell so much upon the evil in the world just because it appears to be a fact? The beauties of the spiritual values of truth are more pleasurable and uplifting than is the phenomenon of evil.[/QUOTE]
    .LM., 29, Mexico City
     
  8. Balerion Banned Banned

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    Save your sermon for the appropriate(ly obscure) websites.
     
  9. cslewis Registered Member

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    I won't. I'm not obscure Whatsoever. .LM.
     
  10. Mazulu Banned Banned

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    The people who serve God, who serve Jesus, are not passive.
     
  11. Balerion Banned Banned

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    Well hopefully the mods will take the choice out of your hands.
     
  12. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    I can't say with certainty but fighting puts you off your rocker. Maybe God can fight evil once and for all.
     
  13. Mazulu Banned Banned

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    ??? What does that mean???
     
  14. cslewis Registered Member

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    Related to kx000's post (after all, Urantia is all about GOD):
     
  15. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    If you fight this world you meet the anti-Christ.
     
  16. Mazulu Banned Banned

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    If you fight what world?
     
  17. cslewis Registered Member

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    xDDD.

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  18. kx000 Valued Senior Member

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    The real world. Including your imagination.
     
  19. cslewis Registered Member

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    THE URANTIA PAPERS are complete in the domain public on the Internet several places. (...)
     
  20. Mazulu Banned Banned

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    The real world includes my imagination? OH JOY!!!
     
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  22. Syne Sine qua non Valued Senior Member

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    I have consistently said that the most relevant defining characteristic of a concept of god, as it relates to conscience, is omniscience. You have not even attempted to address this point. You have only conflated the abstract concept of god with religion in general as an evasion of the whole OP.
     
  23. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    The Bible has quotes showing God in not omniscient. Here's one from the get go of Genesis. There are plenty more.

    Genesis 3:8
    And Adam and his wife hid themselves from the presence of the Lord, amongst the trees of the garden.
     

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