the real collusion investigation.

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Beaconator, May 15, 2019.

  1. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

    what language is this ?
    it surely isn't English

    paying someone a bribe for something means they got paid
    equally to bribing someone.
    a bribe is inherently illegal

    where as employing someone or paying them appearance money is not illegal.

    TV companys pay people to appear on them in the usa as a corner stone of capitalism
    the essence of publicity to make profit sits at the very heart in usa culture
    this is part of the reasoning why lobbyists are legal

    are you trying to align Neil to be a political lobbyist for fox news ?
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  3. iceaura Valued Senior Member

    No, I don't.

    And that would be irrelevant to the thread, of course. If I did seen to have a low opinion of Tyson, for any reason, nothing would change in the arena of Fox trying to sell the "real collusion investigation" via their standard bs tactics.

    So your motives in posting that are immediately on the table.

    But there's no surprise in such a post, from anyone who thinks Fox "earns" its asscovering pretensions to respectability by throwing money at benign causes, paying money to be associated with earned respectability, etc.
    Bribes are not "inherently" illegal. Some bribes are illegal, because legislatures passed have laws against them. The rest have of course been labeled as "inherently" dubious on moral or ethical grounds - the word is a pejorative - but that's a subjective opinion; people sometimes describe tips as bribes for service, for example, and if it's something like hospital emergency room care on the line the description may be reasonable, but seldom otherwise.
    Lobbyists seldom favor publicity for their efforts, and normally deny any profit motive - to avoid prosecution, if for no other reason.
    As the world turns - - - -
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  5. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

    soo... Neil is being talked about on faux pews...
    that follows their misogynist core loony viewers who think equal rights is a leftist plot to take away the 2nd amendment for men and give their guns to women to be made in to sewing machines for their sewing clubs.

    i could not see any actual comments by Neil
    he is probably under legal advice to wait for the "investigation" to finish.

    your comment seems to be without any actual links to outline what occurred in this instance.

    could you please post a link so i know what your referring to ?

    a bride is an illegal payment to acquire a service or product or get a preferred position toward some type of financial or political gain.
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  7. iceaura Valued Senior Member

    Sometimes. And sometimes it isn't. The language is English. There is a dictionary, if you are genuinely confused.
    Irrelevant, if true. His program was mentioned in Sculptor's post, with the intention of obscuring the nature of Fox television, is all.

    Sculptor was trying to bothsides the propaganda operation that is Fox television

    which came up because it is the major source of the bullshit "real collusion" topic, the OP

    to justify his own tolerance of Republican governance and its voting base, his gullibility in the face of Republican propaganda, without incurring the accountability of actual argument or declarative statement. He operates by innuendo, much like Fox itself.

    That is his standard tactic on this forum, in a variety of circumstances in which the Republican Party line and physical or historical reality diverge too much to risk clear endorsement on a forum like this.

    For example: his "like" of this silly mistake you are posting - he can hardly share your confusion about my reply to his post, after all, but if he knew you were posting garbage why do you suppose he hit the "like" button?
    And why do you suppose that instead of dealing with the content of my posting he tried to suggest I had a "low opinion" of Tyson himself - despite my explicit refusal to "blame" Tyson, and my making an argument based the good name and respectability of Tyson?
    As a combination of deflection via personal attack and erosion by Fox innuendo of an argument he does not want to confront, that post makes sense. Otherwise, it doesn't.
    I quoted Sculptor's post, which is right in front of you on this thread. The quote included a link to the complete posting, in context. I posted a linked and labeled quote directly above every "comment" I have made in this digression - whichever one you are talking about. There's no way you can miss them, when you reread to catch up.
    Try "Arts and Culture". Maybe somebody has a thread on the topic.

    Meanwhile: a fairly obvious and direct example of the street level workings of this propaganda operation we are not supposed to label "fascist" for some reason. "The real collusion investigation" ? - - - the Republican Party is lost, base and leadership and media and financing all. They cannot be compromised with, and collaboration with them is a collaboration with fascism - best think long and hard before shaking hands on that bargain.
  8. Beaconator Registered Senior Member

    Mueller is about to be hung as the creator of everything evil ever conceived. I hope he is listening to me intently.
  9. Beaconator Registered Senior Member

    The real conspiracy investigation has just begun! Its beyond my preview. But I know the answers!
  10. sculptor Valued Senior Member

    MI6(steele) seems to have been trying to influence our elections?
    (It ain't the damned ruskies, it's the damned brits)
  11. iceaura Valued Senior Member

    It's both, of course.
    These days primarily the Russians, Israelis, and Saudis, with traditional and ceremonial room for the Brits, and the Chinese entering the sweepstakes more recently with sheer power on their side (the suspension of the rule of law in these matters was noticed immediately by all interested and computer savvy foreigners, but the Chinese have more of a racial bigotry handicap).

    And on the US side, providing welcome mats and open pockets and cooperation of all kinds including apparent treason: the Republican Party, and Trump's administration in particular, racing to stuff the Federal Judiciary and Appeals Courts with ideological allies before the dozens of cases and indictments work their way up.
    Last edited: Jul 30, 2019

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