The psychology of atheists and theists

Discussion in 'Religion' started by James R, Aug 31, 2018.

  1. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    The bible is not science fiction, it is historic fiction also known as mythology.
     
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  3. Jan Ardena Valued Senior Member

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    If you're a professed atheist.

    I would expect you to reject, and or, deny evidence.

    Your point is based on rejection and denial.

    You reject and deny God.

    What do you mean by ''evolution''?

    On so many levels.

    It's a hard pill to swallow, eh!

    IOW, anything that you think helps your delusion.

    You see what you want.

    In time, hopefully you'll come to see that your post is based on denial and rejection.

    So Josef Stalin was correct in his actions, because he believed he was, by that logic.
    Can't you see the nonsense of your delusion?

    The bible is written according to time, place, and circumstance.
    I'm surprised you haven't realized that.
    Then again you believe Stalin was morally correct because he believed he was.

    Just-so stories, are filled with holes.
    Be careful you don't fall into one.

    That is correct.

    A construct of what, exactly?

    By the mercy of God, we can think what we like.

    Fraid not mate.
    Talking about God helps you to remember God, so you're theism is in operation, even though you reject and deny God.

    jan.
     
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  5. Jan Ardena Valued Senior Member

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    Without God, there is no science.

    jan.
     
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  7. Dr_Toad It's green! Valued Senior Member

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    Why don't you take the collar if you're so damned sure?

    Wait, I know. You're as unsure of yourself as you imagine most people to be, so you preach from your keyboard instead of molesting boys.
     
  8. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    What hubris. Theist have discouraged science wherever it conflicted with scripture, even when that scripture is proven false by science.
    That's why....

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  9. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    Without God there are no roller-coasters. Without ice cream there are no radios. Without mountain bikes there is no play-doh.

    Non-sequiturs are fun.
     
  10. Jan Ardena Valued Senior Member

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    Dr. Toad. Do you think you could withdraw that remark.

    Thanks in advance.

    jan.
     
  11. Goldtop Registered Senior Member

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    Notice Jan is forced to fabricate the response in order to suit his agenda of fabrications. He said nothing about being popular, Jan. Your words, not his. That's the only way you can ever make your point is to use your own words in other peoples responses.

    God, Jan, God is evidence of God. Not your holy books, not your claims, nothing you can say or do other than to produce God. Simple really.

    I'm not sure if that could be classified as your biggest whopper, but it's certainly right up there. If theists were interested in facts, they wouldn't be theists.
     
  12. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Is God an object that can be observed and studied? What are the properties of God which have given rise to science in humans?
     
  13. Dr_Toad It's green! Valued Senior Member

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    Just maybe the search for a god drove some of the people whose shoulders we stand on today.

    But they're probably crazy too. It's turtles all the way down.
     
  14. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Actually, only science does any kind of search and research. As soon as the church engages in scientific research, they find that science is the superior knowledge.

    Hence, the Pontifical Academy of Sciences has found that Darwinian Evolution is fact.
    Consider the implications of that acknowledgement. Science has come a long way since the "monkey trials".
     
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  15. Dr_Toad It's green! Valued Senior Member

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    Agreed, for the most part, but it's still turtles...
     
  16. Jan Ardena Valued Senior Member

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    Are you going to withdraw your accusation?

    jan.
     
  17. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    I think you overstood the mark there. This is the sort of stuff foolish people with no self-control level at a personal level to others online that awards them an instantaneous lifetime ban.
     
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  18. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    Oh I figured that out thats why I dont understand why it should carry weight today.
    Are you talking about Starlin the green grocer?
    I have often said your game is "lets talk about god to make him real" so your comment is expected.

    Unfortunately the more I think about it the more I conclude theisism etc is rubbish and each time I visit here and see the same old same old I realise the universe could never have been created so even the fuzzy idea of God becomes less...in fact I cant even visualise the old man with a beard these days so thanks.

    I am now neither an atheist or a theist as each term in an eternal universe is meaningless.

    An eternal universe needs no creator so there is nothing to reject, nothing to deny ... it has always been and therefore even that last place you could squeeze in God before the big bang no longer is available.


    Alex
     
  19. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    I dont want to be involved Jan but so you at least feel better I did not see it as a suggestion about your behavioir but that you do the right thing and work from your keyboard whereas some priests are using their position of trust to cater to their supressed sex drives.

    I took it as a dig against priests not your good self and I would like to think that was the way of it...

    Anyways I understand if you took it that the claim was directed at you it must be very upsetting.

    Stay calm turn the other cheek and I am sure all will be sortted.

    Have a great day and dont remain upset.

    Alex
     
  20. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    Seems like a pretty clear cut accusation. If I say "You do X instead of Y", I am leveling a claim on a very personal level. All that remains to be determined is if X or Y go beyond what admins want to entertain as permissible.
     
  21. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    I wrote in an effort to make Jan feel better and I suppose to encourage an approach to not to take it personally.

    I doubt if DrT meant it to come over the way it could be taken.

    Anyways I think we can remain calm ... in any event insults often harm those making them more than the victim.

    We can only wait.


    Alex
     
  22. Musika Last in Space Valued Senior Member

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    The best way to diminish feelings of personal insult is for persons not to level them. When a person attributes a retrograde act to a specific creed and summing it all up as being illustrated by a specific individual before them, they have left themselves no space to maneuver to dodge the responsibility of having leveled a personal insult. Of course as an online forum, such things are par for the course. The only thing that requires attention is whether allegations of pedophilia, in such affairs, is permissible.
     
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  23. Xelasnave.1947 Valued Senior Member

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    You were not here when "the god" took a dislike to me ... he said something similar about me...I cant recall how I responded specifically but he never got banned for his crime against me.



    So thats all I can add.

    Alex
     

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