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Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by serenesam, Jul 8, 2018.

  1. river

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    Disagree

    There is a flow of photons . Three Dimensionally .
     
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  3. river

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    Then put what you saying in a way I can understand . And everyone visiting this thread .
     
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  5. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    wrong thread
     
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  7. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    I'm not sure why you are deluding yourself about anyone taking any notice of your silly claims.
    And really, I can't put it simpler, but I did elaborate more in the spacetime thread in the cosmological sciences sections. Check it out there.
     
  8. river

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    Yeah No .

    No . I Will check it here .

    Your elaboration of spacetime , can also be elaborated here .
     
  9. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    In that case, remain ignorant.

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  10. river

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    Yes I will .

    But really it is about why not elaborate here ; what's the problem ?
     
  11. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Two problems, both emanating with you...
    [1] It has already been elaborated on by myself for you on more then one occasion, in the fringes.
    [2] Your record shows that no matter how much evidence [observational and experimental] one can show supporting the mainstream picture and space/time/gravity and geometry, you will always fly in the face of that evidence with some kook interpretation and/or denial.
    Now again, read it in the proper sciences threads in cosmology, where you are banned from spewing your nonsensical alternatives and/or your denial and ignorance of the facts.
     
  12. river

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    1) so what , elaborate again .
     
  13. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    The info/definition/model is there if you are truly interested.
    But that is not the case is it river? All you want to do is troll.
    I'm not playing your silly childish games river. Buzz off river, go home, play with someone else!!

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  14. river

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    Disagree

    If you are truely interested in your theory , then you will again present it here .

    We all on this site want hear , read , what your thinking .
     
  15. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    GFYr
    Most here know and understand the spacetime concept and GR.
    They can read and also participate in the sciences.
    Including "them" in your own silly nonsense, doesn't cut it or fool anyone river. You're out on a limb, as you always have been.
    ps: Fat Freddy may take you in under his wings though.
     
  16. river

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    But not physically , just mathematically . Spacetime is a mathematical concept . Neither space nor time can exist independent of Physical Objects Fundamental Existence .
     
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  17. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    It's a hard job educating someone as snowed under by pseudoscience and myth as you are river.
    Space is real...time is real...spacetime is real and is the basis and foundation against which cosmology and scientific theories are based. None are physical entities, but that does not make them any the less not real.
    The facts of space/time/gravity and the many examples of observational data around us, including the bending warping, twisting, and gravitational lensing, in the presence of mass/energy, support that real framework we call spacetime.
    Again, if you need more info and facts, it can be found somewhere in the threads in the cosmology section, rather then your Kindergarten playroom river.
    Out of the goodness of my heart I will direct you there if you ask nicely.

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  18. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Does anyone find it strange that one of the trends is roof top gardens growing food?

    Seems to me we cleared the land to build our cities and now we are putting the land back higher up on roofs

    Is this pseudo-living underground?

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  19. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Of course. Nothing I said disagrees with the idea that photons exist in 3D space, or that gravity curves that 3D space.
     
  20. river

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    The full response ; billvon ;

    The photon is not going in a straight line . There is a difference of flow between a straight line and a bend .

    To extreme from a straight line to 90° bend , to the photon something has changed . The photon flow has changed ; the bend is to sharp for the photon flow not to be affected .
     
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  21. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Exactly. From YOUR perspective, away from that curved space, the photon is not going in a straight line. But from the photon's perspective, it is going perfectly straight - just like that pebble in my ISS example.
    Nope. It knows nothing about any bending. No forces have acted on it. Nothing changed its trajectory (from its perspective.) It is going straight as far as it knows.

    Understanding relative frames of reference is critical when you are working with physics examples like this.
     
  22. river

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    Its not about knowing its about reacting .
     
  23. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    You are speaking from a position of ignorance river. Photons/light travel in geodesics, or the shortest path between two points.
    From afar, we see that as light bending, and lensing, two concepts that you are ignorant of.
     

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