Hey, Gifted...since you are the Chaos Lord... Many years ago, the military was heavy into BPR (Business Process Reengineering). Now I understand, they are into "Complexity and Chaos Theory" and its application into military affairs and by extension the society at large. Can you shed any light on this?
The status of Chaos Lord is still under development, but a degree in that sort of thing will be required(and I don't have one yet, sorry!). I also apologize, a reveiw showed that my last idea posted was already posted.
Well to answer your question. If everyone really tried to be good, it wouldn't matter what kind of government was being used. Any kind would work if people really wanted everything to work. Anarchy - People would respect each other Dictatorship - The dicator would be really caring and a good guy. Be really good at his job Totalitarianism - The leader would know exactly what people wanted and would serve them Democracy - People would not be dumb and make good choices See what I mean. I think all forms of government would work. Because whoever had the ideas for these governments must have seen something good in them. And if they were used by good people, those good values would be recognized and utilized by the people
A state of Utopia is completely impossible. People are different, and society is continully changing. If Utopia were possible, it would be different tommorow than it was today. Infact, it would be different every second. It would never stop changing, because the concept of Utopia is changing with the people. That is if Utopia is even possible. Its relative to every living being. For a poor man it may be wealth, for a minority (wo)man it may be equality, for a Cop it may be infinite doughnuts. Its impossible. Utopia is a state of mind. If there was no pain and suffering, there would be no pleasure and good, yes? One is opposite of the other, therefore they are the same. Without pain, suffering, and death, we would have no fears. We could possibly kill ourselves without knowing it. The world would be boring, it would be different. I can't begin to fathom at this moment how horrible the world would be if we couldnt feel pain.
I agree with Unregistered. I think Utopia's different for every person. There's just no way to satisfy everyone. Call me a pessimistic bum Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!, but hey, it's reality we're dealing with here. Though, if you'd like to enter the super-wacky world of make-belief, I'll join you there on my purple-and-pink polka dot elephant. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
I don't think a Utopia is possible, especially since there's probably not been a day where everybody has gotten along without even the slightest conflict. In fact, I think that things are only going to get worse. Read my thread "Technolgy- Friend or Foe?"
Isn't it true that once you have something, you will want something else eventually? I don't think a uptopia can happen because once there is no hate, no pain, no violence there will be something inside ourselves to feel them again. If you started a utopia from scratch, as bring some babies up in the ideal world, then it has a chance of succeeding, but once a person gets a taste of violence, hate, or any other "evil" in the real world, they will have a yearning for it. But isn't it fun to think about what you can't have?
I would not like to live in a utopia. It would give its citizens far too little freedom. I also think a utopia would be unstable and a forign power would collapse it.
Just think, when we finally get a system that would allow us to send large numbers of people to other systems for a low enough price, people will start again trying ot do this. It might work better, as communications will probably be very slow, and so any society they set up will develop without outside influence. I can see many people founding some place like Gramarye, wouldn't that be cool.
In a word with no pain hate or sadness, there would be no love happiness or pleasure. We wouldnt know love happiness or pleasure without knowing what the inverse of them are. A Utopia would be impossible. No one will ever be satisfied.
Also, its no just one thing that makes people happy. Pain sometimes makes people hapy. Losing makes people happy sometimes. ::shrug:: sorry for double posting
Maybe Utopia's when everyone's dead. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! No worries, no pain, no love, no hate. Just blissful nonexistence. Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
grrrrrrrr....Plato's New Republic drove me to distraction!! Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
I think the reason that we will never have a utopia is because no political system will ever work. There will always be people who don't respect other people. Those who strive to become leaders are attracted to power and once attained their first goal will be to ensure they keep it. And there will always be dumb people and we will always make poor choices now and then. Democracy does not bestow people with wisdom, it just gives them the right to make mistakes.
It would be like reading a book that has a happy start and middle as well as ending. Totally feel-good and totally boring, especially if you were actually living it as well. Which makes me think... What would anyone have to write about? Would there be any arts?
Of course there would be. But they wouldn't be overburdened with messages of pain and suffering or of lessons-learned because everything is perfect and well. It wouldn't be boring to the people in the society because they are happy with living their life. They don't need to connect with a medium to sort out their emotions.