The only thing worse than death is living forever

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  1. fess Registered Senior Member

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    I suspect no matter how wonderful heaven is and how great it is hanging with God, after the first 900 trillion years, it's going to start to get old.
     
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  3. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    You'd be able to sing without the hymnbook.
     
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  5. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    I woud sign up for livin foerver... but not if i woudnt always have the ability to end it.!!!
     
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  7. geordief Valued Senior Member

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    If I were to be able to live forever would you still be the same person all the time?

    And if everyone was also able to do it would there be a need for sex?
     
  8. fess Registered Senior Member

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    After all that time, would there be any desire for sex?
     
  9. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    would you change gender and live a normal length life as the opposite gender ?
     
  10. geordief Valued Senior Member

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    Don't see why not if every day is a new day.The same would apply to any activity.

    "He who is not busy being born is busy dying"

     
  11. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    What if each lifetime was unique, starting fresh each time and completely new?
     
  12. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    Why should that be the only kind of immortality?
    For that matter, do you know how many kinds of wonderful heaven can be?
    They are. So?
     
  13. Bowser Right Here, Right Now Valued Senior Member

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    You are asking for an explanation?
     
  14. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    This is what I was thinkin' (once upon a time when I wondered about heaven). You wouldn't stagnate; there would be a whole new adventure awaiting - like a sequel of a movie.

    And then I thought: well, yeah but if you're same person, with all the same memories, then you'd have all your old baggage. Start a project, you already know a thousand ways it could be a drudge. That would fatigue you pretty quickly.

    So I thought, maybe you get to purge your memories, so the world (whatever world it is) is fresh and new again.

    And that is essentially reincarnation.
     
  15. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Actually, whenever I think about my heaven (in a fantasy way), I imagine lounging in a giant park and running into all my heroes of history.

    "You're Albert Einstein?? Wow. In the dictionary, next to genius, is your picture. I know, I know, you're a humble man. But you changed how we think about the universe!"

    "Hey is that Darwin over there? You were right! There are little particles in our body that encode our genes. They were too small to see with microscopes in your time, but ... here, let my sketch you some DNA..."

    "Rosa Parks?? Of course I know of you. Yours is a household name. Yeah, well into the 21st century."

    "Gutenburg! I want to shake your hand. You changed the world with your press! Greatest invention in the history of humankind. You should see what the world looks like today!"

    "Hitler, you say? Do I remember you? No, not off-hand. Wait, wait. There was a character in the cartoons called Hitler. Short guy, little comb for a mustache. Always yelling and goosestepping. It was a real larf. But that wasn't a real person; it was just a cartoon character based off some guy in the war. How's Poland you ask? Well it's the hub of Europe. Has been ever since it annexed Germany. Why?"
     
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  16. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 69 years old Valued Senior Member

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    Alzheimer's?

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  17. spidergoat Venued Serial Memberlist Valued Senior Member

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    After 100 years or less on Earth, it can get old. I strongly agree that eternal life is eternal suffering. Maybe heaven and hell are the same place.
     
  18. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    No. I'm saying that this:
    is already the case.
    You have no way of telling whether you've lived before, so it doesn't matter whether souls are newly created or recycled.

    Eternal afterlife would have to disembodied, so you'd have to keep your individual memory in the Cloud. I wonder what its carrying-capacity is; how long before data is degraded and garbled.
     
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  19. wegs She knew how to fly all along... Valued Senior Member

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    But, would eternal life be the same as ''living'' in our physical bodies? Probably not. So, it could be quite cool and mystical. No two days, ever the same.
     
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  20. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    The only thing worse than death is no one noticing...........

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    Oh and this may be pertinent.



    The Afterlife, Paul Simon

    After I died, and the makeup had dried
    I went back to my place
    No moon that night
    But a heavenly light shone on my face
    Still I thought it was odd
    There was no sign of God just to usher me in
    Then a voice from above
    Sugar coated with love, said, "Let us begin"
    You got to fill out a form first
    And then you wait in the line
    You got to fill out a form first
    And then you wait in the line
    Okay, a new kid in school
    Got to follow the rule
    You got to learn the routine
    Woah, there's a girl over there
    With the sunshiny hair, like a homecomin' queen
    I said, "Hey, what you say?
    It's a glorious day,
    By the way how long you been dead?"
    Maybe you, maybe me
    Maybe baby makes three
    But she just shook her head
    You got to fill out a form first
    And then you wait in the line
    You got to fill out a form first
    And then you wait in the line
    Buddah and Moses and all the noses from narrow to flat
    Had to stand in the line
    Just to glimpse the divine
    What you think about that?
    Well it seems like our fate to suffer
    And wait for the knowledge we seek
    It's all his design, no one cuts in the line
    No one here, likes a sneak
    You got to fill out a form first
    And then you wait in the line
    You got to fill out a form first
    And then you wait in the line
    After you climb, up the ladder of time
    The Lord God is here
    Face to face, in the vastness of space
    Your words disappear
    And you feel like swimming in an ocean of love,
    And the current is strong
    But all that remains when you
    Try to explain is a fragment of song
    Lord is it, be bop a lu la
    Or ooh poppa do
    Lord, be bop a lu la or ooh poppa do
    Be bop a lu la
    Songwriters: Paul Simon
     
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  21. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    .... for two weeks... in August...
     
  22. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    Absolutely... but befor acceptin eternal life... woudnt you want the ability to opt-out if it wasnt cool.???
     
  23. wegs She knew how to fly all along... Valued Senior Member

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    Maybe I'd want to know who's there, first.

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