The New York Times

Discussion in 'Politics' started by foghorn, Sep 30, 2020.

  1. foghorn Registered Senior Member

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    Why is it not a 'simple' case for Trump to take TNYT to court for lies about his payment of tax?

    Whether it was right or wrong on how TNYT obtained his tax records is another story and not the point I want answered here.

    So, why hasn't Trump filed for a court action on the basis of 'obvious' lies?
     
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  3. gmilam Valued Senior Member

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    Because he knows it's true.
     
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  5. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 70 years old Valued Senior Member

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    I understand rules of engagement for public figures are different. In so called debates and on the campaign trail politicians are allowed a lightyear of leeway in their promises and comments on the opposition

    On the flip side the public has a great deal of leeway to lie about them. As I understand the system if a member of the public or newspaper company is taken to court the defence would be, for both, along the lines
    Well that's what I heard and it's my opinion
    Or
    Well it sounded true

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  7. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Trump is not trying to convince anyone with a brain, he is only trying to fill his brain-dead supporters with more hateful crap.
     
  8. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    A) Trump's tax audit ain't finished.
    B) If inaccurate: Defamation is a cause of action, but not only would you have to prove the information is false, but that the publisher knew or should have known the information was false and defamatory. These are very difficult cases to prove ...

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    caveat
    I've not read the nyt article
    nor do I know if the nyt intent was malicious

    see the thread
    "why"
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    "You furnish the pictures and I’ll furnish the war."
     
  9. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    because they didn't lie?
     
  10. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    He'd have to disprove them.
    That would mean releasing the tax records he promised to release. He's not going to do that.

    Besides, he usually wants to use court action for delay. He will save such a filing for when he needs the delay.
     
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  11. origin Heading towards oblivion Valued Senior Member

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    Trumps muted reaction shows they are accurate. The information on the returns shows why he wouldn't release them. The NYT did nothing wrong in printing the story, but the person who stole the returns and gave them to the NYT did break the law.
    The returns show that Trump is a liar, a cheat and a lousy businessman; so we didn't get any new information from his returns anyway.
     
  12. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Irrelevant.
     
  13. foghorn Registered Senior Member

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    Doesn't matter, Trump called it ''fake news'' so he knows for sure, he can't lose in court.
     
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  14. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Wouldn't it be convenient if Trump had a sudden illness to take attention away from the leak of his tax records, his dismal performance in the debate, the pending rape case against him, his steady decline in the polls and the revelation that Russia is mounting a similar disinformation campaign against Biden as they did in 2016?
     
  15. foghorn Registered Senior Member

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  16. foghorn Registered Senior Member

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    I thought Trump had reached the part were he 'dies' for the sake of mankind. You know, just like his brother Jesus.
     
  17. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    curiously
    The only reason I would vote for that arrogant prick is that he ain't started another "war".
    I consider what Obama did in Libya and Syria to have been criminal murder of people who meant us no harm.
     
  18. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    I've never heard anyone decide the political views of their leaders based on foreign policies, usually it's based on how the leaders are leading their own countries first and foremost. Odd, indeed.
     
  19. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    <--------anti war libertarian socialist(on a good day, I'm conflicted)

    Ok: 'tain't nothing special, most combat vets I know are antiwar.

    I caucused for Dennis Kucinich (universal health care)-----one of my right wing cousins said--"who?--that commie bastard"
    "Yeh", quoth I, "That commie bastard---You would do well to not spend so much time listening to the radio show of that drug addled right wing nutjob."

    For 2 years, Obama had a democratic house and senate. Did we get universal health care?-Did we get a living minimum wage?----The millionaire democrats are all smoke and mirrors. They claim glorious social programs, then vote their millionaire portfolios.
    "Medicare for all" --- Medicare is administered by private insurance companies-------(more smoke and mirrors)
    Anyone who thinks that Biden is better, doesn't know Joe(the senator from mbna).
     
  20. foghorn Registered Senior Member

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    It's only a flag. What's with the '' that arrogant prick ''? Don't let your feelings be controlled by a rag.
    Perhaps you understand now why some don't like the Confederate flag.
     
  21. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    Nope, I still think that being offended (or claiming to be offended) by a decorated rag is silly and stupid.
    (give the devil his due) I do not like seeing the us flag being used as decoration by businesses, and left out in the rain or the dark of night.
    (hate is not the opposite of love-----indifference is the opposite of love)
    (I'm conflicted)
     
  22. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Obama got millions of people on health care that didn't have it before, but that's not the issue. The problem, once again, was the Republican party doing everything in their power to stop Obama from doing anything. It's the same hypocrisy we have just witnessed with the Supreme court debacle.
     
  23. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    2 years they had
    It's not that the millionaire democrats didn't give a damn for the people, it was all due to the machinations of those evil republicans.
    yeh right
    smoke and mirrors
     

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