The nazi bastard coming to NYC.

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  1. otheadp Banned Banned

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    wtf does that have to do with my question (or observation)???
     
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  3. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    It could very well be you with a banner supporting an invasion of his country.

    Only you'd see it as righteous and justified (as he probably does).
     
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  5. otheadp Banned Banned

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    as always, you miss the nuance and talk generalities. i'm tired of pointing out the differences to you. you're just a spammer, as far as i'm concerned.

    and now my post will most likely not be seen because of your spam. it's burried underneath a pile of irrelevant crap.
     
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    Bush declares USA and Saudi Arabia are 'best friends' then goes to UN to denounce Iran and tyranny ..

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    As the Donald said yesterday: Bush has turn the United States into the laughing stock of the world. the world laughs at Americans and their hypocrisy.
     
  8. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    That doesn't imply secularism, only cynicism. The kids doing it are still doing it for God.

    So al Qaeda only uses suicide attacks in India. Is it to destroy these aforementioned call centres?
     
  9. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=71760
     
  10. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    Then why is this articl adressed about this problem in Islam, and adressed to those of Islam who have done or contiplate these action?


    Yes, suicide bombers are a small minority, but even the author of the article is aware that it is done for the offer of religious reward in Paradise.

    He also seems to be very aware of the penchant for Islamic Fundamentalist to kill the innocent, with out cause, according to him, there is never cause to kill the innocent.

    Abu Huraira, seems to be very aware of this, as he is the author of the article, and seems to be very concerned about this as a growing trend in Islam today.
     
  11. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    The concern in Muslims is more in the application of the term martyr to suicide bombers, since it is reserved for those who died defending themselves in war. All soldiers who die in war are shaheed (even in India).

    http://www.shahidbhagatsingh.org/
     
  12. otheadp Banned Banned

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    one rule says "you can't kill sick [etc.] people"
    another rule says "you have to sacrifice your life for G-d on the path to righteousness"
    another rule says "you have to fight evil"

    so the rules are manipulated to serve whatever the jihadi wants them to mean. i.e., you "fight evil" by "sacrificing your life for G-d" by killing sick people who happen to be evil

    and now the jihadi has an excuse and a religious authorization to kill sick people, contradictory to the 1st rule, but kosher when you read all the rules together.

    see, SAM? it's called a nuance.
     
  13. S.A.M. uniquely dreadful Valued Senior Member

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    That would be fine, but its not the nuance used by the IDF for their "military" insurgencies and illegal occupation. The attempts to paint all Palestinians (including Christians and Marxists) as jihadists is also a nuance. Or are you claiming that the IDF is also made up of jihadis?
     
  14. otheadp Banned Banned

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    actually, that's a lack of nuance. that's also your own words. IDF knows The Nuance. very well. but for the purpose of counter-terror operations, which are about achieving immediate objectives, as opposed to posing philosophical arguments, violent marxist = violent jihadi = violent Xtian.

    but let's address your point for a sec. if you try to segment the "insurgent community" among the "Palestinians", the Christians and Marxists play a much smaller role (if any) than in the 70s. it's almost an exclusively Muslim thing.

    look at the rejectionist factions (Hamas, PIJ) and look at the "acceptionist" factions (al-Fatah). the marxists are closer to Fatah than to Hamas and PIJ.
     
  15. Buffalo Roam Registered Senior Member

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    And what are those who kill and shout the praises of Allah as they set off the bombs strapped to their bodies? and take a load of innocent kids with them, and from what I read he is addressing exactly the point that Moslems are committing suicide because they are told that they will receive paradise for such acts, how much reading comprehension do you have to have missed that point in the article, dumb question, you have time and again shown the level of your comprehension.

    He is saying in the article wake up Islam, and believers, Paradise is not your for committing suicide and killing innocents, no matter who tells you so, look to the Quran' and see what awaits your for this sin.

    I am just a dumb assed infidel, and I can see the message in the article, and if it wasn't a problem why would he take the time to make such a detailed rebuttal of Suicide Bombing, and the killing of Innocents.
     
  16. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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  17. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    No killing of inocence is justifiable in the Qu'ran, unless it is justifiable in the Bible.

    But, you can make it justifiable in the Koran and Bible if you 'bend the words'. In other words, make sure the political and social environment is just right, along with strong propaganda, and you can get it done, as much with the Bible as with Koran.
     
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    then we should nuke India along the way

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  19. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Yes and no: there's no "turn the other cheek" in the Quran.
     
  20. Norsefire Salam Shalom Salom Registered Senior Member

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    What do you mean?

    Get the right blend of politics, sociality, etc, and any Abrahamic Holy Book can justify any action.
     
  21. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Jesus said "don't stone people".

    If you're a Christian, that trumps the part of the OT where they say "stone people".
     
  22. Hurricane Angel I am the Metatron Registered Senior Member

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    This entire thread is festering with stupidity.
     
  23. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Norsefire:

    And yet, you are just back from a ban for inciting the murder of gay people. How do you justify that with your Qu'ran?

    I assume it is by redefining "innocence" in whatever way suits your purposes at the time.
     

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