The most absurd moderation in Sci history

Discussion in 'SF Open Government' started by Norsefire, Aug 5, 2010.

  1. Bells Staff Member

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    Do try to keep up young man. He was given 12 hours by me in this thread when he re-argued the very same (anti-semitic) points that got him banned in the first place.
     
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  3. Bells Staff Member

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    My use of sarcasm is what you deserved, to be honest.

    /Flaps SUPERMOD cape and flies away..
     
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  5. WillNever Valued Senior Member

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    You need to go back and reread some posts. Whether you know it or not, you are avoiding the fact that norse's *first* ban (you do know he was banned by James before you, right?) took place ~2 hours after his "hate speech," before he could have a realistic chance of providing evidence for what might have been a rational opinion. As far he might have known, no one asked him for it because by the time he logged back on, he was already banned. His frustration and anger from that point onward is quite natural. You punishing him for it is not natural, however.
     
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  7. WillNever Valued Senior Member

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    Actually, it's all you are able handle when confronted. It's much easier to redirect the conversation than to face an ugly truth about yourself.

    Incoming predictably sarcastic and deflective response.
     
  8. Bells Staff Member

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    Okay. To clear up your confusion.

    I banned Norse for his claims in this thread when he repeated the same thing that had resulted in his original ban. I asked him to provide proof of his claims and gave him 12 hours to do so. He failed to do so. So after more than 12 hours passed, I banned him.

    Do you understand now?

    Actually no. I tend to become sarcastic when I have to restrain myself from calling someone stupid. I mean I can either come out and call you and what you said stupid (and breach the rules of this site). Or I can respond with sarcasm to give you an indication of just how stupid what you said actually was. It is a fault of mine, but I developed it in my work as most judges find it offensive when counsel refer to defendants as 'stupid' (for example: 'I raped the 2 year old because she sat on my lap and was asking for it'.. I could call the individual 'stupid' or I can respond with sarcasm about his perception that a 2 year old would actually ask for sex when cuddling up to her father as most toddlers do).

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  9. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Cheers.
     
  10. Bells Staff Member

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    I should ammend that with that exception, because well, it truly was exceptional.

    I quite literally laughed out loud reading that post by Panda. It makes posting on this site worthwhile to be honest.

    I must thank Geoff for reminding me of it.

    So thank you Geoff!

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    And just for good measure, I will :worship: to Panda. Because honestly, we are not worthy.
     
  11. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    You certainly aren't.

    I'd have believed the "laugh out loud" if it had been funny, but as it was...well.

    Cheerio!

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  12. Bells Staff Member

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    Now Will, Geoff here is one of my detractors. I am sure that you can get together and discuss and complain about how evil I was in banning Norse for antisemitism.

    So while you two do that, I shall bid you both goodnight. I am going to bed.

    A Supermod needs sleep to be able to lord it over you all again tomorrow with my SUPERMOD powers!

    I find lack of sleep tends to inhibit my lording powers when in SUPERMOD mode.

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  13. GeoffP Caput gerat lupinum Valued Senior Member

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    Does anything inhibit your egocentrism?

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    A mirror, perhaps? Wait: that's inhuman bloodsucking fiends I'm thinking of, not lawyers.

    ...Humour aside, I don't disagree with Norsefire's ban. As far as detraction goes, it tends to be tit-for-tat between us.
     
  14. WillNever Valued Senior Member

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    But for the fact that norse was originally banned on the spot by James R, without asking norse for evidence, this thread would not exist and norse would have received no further bannings. Norse's frustration and stubborness was natural, given his initial treatment. Your response to his frustration was not natural, however.

    I said this to you already, but I know, it's hard.

    More probably, you become sarcastic when you realize that you had just done something stupid. Like you did in this thread.

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  15. Bells Staff Member

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    And? He was banned for anti-semitism. When he returned and protested against his ban by being even more anti-semitic, I asked him to provide proof of his claims or be banned again.

    Norse was frustrated because he was actually expected to back up his claims. How horrible for him. To actually be expected to substantiate his claims..

    I am sorry Willnever, but this forum has particular rules. He was banned immediately the first time for breaking those rules and when he broke the rules again by repeating the very thing that got him banned, but then refused to back up those statements with evidence.


    Will, I was not the one getting confused about who banned who. You were. James banned him immediately the first time for anti-semitism in accordance to the rules. I banned him a second time when he repeated the very same thing and was unable to substantiate his claims. Again, in accordance to the rules.


    Now cherie, I don't think I have done something stupid. I am sure that if it was stupid to begin with, my fellow moderators would have stepped in by now and asked me to not ban him. None of them have.

    I provided links for them when I issued the original warning, as well as when I issued the ban. I am sure if they think my actions was stupid, they will rush to this thread and defend Norse and they are free to do so. I will continue to stand by my decision however. You are free to PM Plazma with your complaint. And as I stated before, he will read through the original thread and what was said in this thread and determine if I acted stupidly in banning him for 10 days (less than what he actually should have gotten in the ban cycle). So please, for the love of the FSM, PM Plazma and report me if you feel that I banned him unfairly.
     
  16. WillNever Valued Senior Member

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    I didn't read the rest of your post beyond this point because we can stop right here. Norse were not asked for evidence in a reasonable amount of time before he were*first* banned. It were only 2 hours.
     
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  17. Bells Staff Member

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    /Facepalm

    He was not asked the first time because there was notrequirement for him to be asked. You know, because he was being anti-semitic which is against this forum's rules. When he returned and spouted the same thing, I asked him to substantiate his claims or face a ban. He returned and claimed it as fact. So I asked him to provide proof for his 'facts'. He refused and after more than the allotted time went by, he was banned.

    Honestly, how hard is that to understand?
     
  18. WillNever Valued Senior Member

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    The claims were not inherently anti-semitic *except* if he refused to provide evidence after he were asked the first time. Before he were *first* banned, Norse were not asked by a moderator to back up his claim.

    The ban was a pavlovian knee-jerk reaction to perceived criticism of an overly protected ethnic group. If it were "Americans" as an ethnic group that Norse criticized, then he would not have been banned -- simply because there exists no "anti-semitic" type concept for that. That fact alone reveals the sheer hypocrisy of it all.

    I question if you know what a semite actually is. It does not mean "jews." Semitism is merely a language pattern. It's becoming increasingly obvious that I am talking to uneducated people. "Oops, I'm a retard" would be an appropriate response for you right now.
     
  19. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    In fact :
    Willkommen Norsefire.

    Your article in the latest Sturmer was most enlightening.

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  20. pjdude1219 The biscuit has risen Valued Senior Member

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    so far my favorite part of this thread is when Norse accused me of being a zionist sympathizer.
     
  21. Gustav Banned Banned

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    ummm
    along with the us, many other nations sent troops. some died, families mourned...

    Amsterdam - The governing Dutch coalition was poised on the brink of possible collapse Thursday, after the junior Labour party partner set a deadline for rejecting a NATO request for further troops for Afghanistan.

    .. and guess what...their troops returned home for good and the dutch govt did collapse.

    it is callous and evil to brush all this aside as lucysnow has done. it is not only the ME that suffers. we all do cos we are humans capable of empathy and compassion. we will not turn a blind eye, nor will will ignore...

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    jesus frikkin christ
    the latest incidents

    Six Americans Among 10 Medical Workers Killed by Taliban in Afghanistan

    Homecoming for 12th soldier from Cincinnati area county killed in Iraq or Afghanistan

    move on? is she serious? the conflict is ongoing and she asks us to move on?
    people are fucking dying and she asks us to move on?


    this notion that sci remain isolated and immune to the currents that sweep real life is utterly moronic. we allow members their sentiments. we allow members their lack of sentiment. sci does not care. you engage us how you see fit. form your faction, flash your gang signs, root for starwars over startrek. we dont mind. it is what makes this a vibrant and successful community. we mirror the outside world. we are not an ivory tower. that is why we stand out. we allow an organic and natural evolution

    you dont like?
    goddamn fuck off

    imagine if this creature actually had to experience the shit we are talking about. how about living thru an actual roadside bomb or drone attack? instead she is thrown into paroxysms of fear and a catatonic state by merely watching other members arguing and expressing pov's about these incidents


    this is absurd. this thread IS related to ME issues.
    i mean, look how she hooks this in...


    thats at post 15, lucysnow harps and jibes at sam. post after post, thread after thread, the constant and underhand attacks.

    pardon me lucysnow, this thread has nothing to do with the ME. or sam

    /snicker


    i would suggest you think harder but that would be a waste of energy. you are obviously incapable of any form of rational thought. still though, you seem content with knee jerk reactions and most juvenile and superficial of thought

    wtf? i mean WTF??

    /lmao

    another wannabe fascist trying to dictate how the community should express itself by offering up a false dilemma. is this creature for real?
    hmm, porf's last words......

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    ja
    stay in your shitty little incestuous colony and leave us alone.

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    leave like you promised in your goodbye thread. have the courage of your goddamn convictions and just fucking go


    blather and gibber
    destabilizing? wtf is she talking about?
    look, the sci that lucy sees is one that is tainted by her pathology. it is she that is uniquely traumatized by our community and this is a problem she has to deal with herself

    we choose which areas of sci we frequent. some are exclusive to scifi, others to physics...etc. she chooses to participate in the most contentious of areas and whines if things do not go the way she wants it to. it is not our problem. failing to dictate our reality is because she is of a piddling intellect and has no meaningful argument. this is why she has to rail and bitch in sfog in the most mean spirited of manners
     
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  22. Gustav Banned Banned

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    please consider that you are too intelligent and sophisticated for this board
    please consider too that you had already said your goodbyes.
    have the courage of your convictions and just do it
    leave

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  23. Gustav Banned Banned

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    now
    to douche or not to douche
    that is the question, lucysnow?

    oh
    it is duch
    pardon

    /smile
     

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