Discussion in 'Science & Society' started by Norsefire, Aug 22, 2008.
Have you ever been to the Netherlands ?
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No, but I know there are prostituts and drugs users everywhere
LOL and where did you hear this nonsense ?
Prostitues and drugs are legal
I've never been to Mars, but I know it's full of kangaroos, ugly children and giant ice cream vans.
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No they are not.
what do you hope to get out of this conversation?
(I've been wondering about such things about myself)
You're right.. lol
No, it really was a question and not a critical one. A few of us are having a discussion on this kind of issue in one of Coberst's threads. I was actually curious what your answer would be.
Hrm.. because I don't agree. And because I'm trying to figure out if he actually means it, or if I might have misunderstood.
But it's of no use. It's opinion against opinion for the most part. Although he's just plain wrong about some things.
Yes, they are, in the Netherlands.
so norsefire, its only YOU who wants to go back to conscription by sufuage.
You mean, it's only me that wants people to be disciplined, good people?
Yea, it seems so
no norse, its only YOU who want to turn our children into a)mindless goverment drones b) mindless goverment drone killers
The rest of us see political decent as a GOOD thing for the country, for instance if you actually read the speaches made when the last democrates made there validictory speaches you will see that even the pollies THEMSELVES want desent.
Hell the labor party which had almost aposlolute control over the NT parliment came out THEMSELVES wanting people to restore balance, oviously they wanted to maintain control over the goverment arm but they wanted the balance restored to a parliment that only had 3 oposition members because APSOLUTES DONT WORK
Er, no......I want people to be disciplined, fit, and respectful.
Nonsense. Your opinions continue to just appall me....geez, learn to use your right hand.
Democracy is the power of people. You can't take that away. You can try, but you will end up swinging from a rope or losing your head in a guillotine. Let the lessons from history teach you something; you can't corral people for ever.
Democracy and the free market are quite efficient enough, thanks.
"Patriotism is the last bastion of the scoundrel." (Samuel Johnson). Thinking your country can do no wrong just makes you a gullible idiot. But then you do appear to be exactly that. The funny thing is, people who support facism always think it's going to benefit them, .. they never see the truth that they will lose freedom, and get pushed around themselves.
i think the discipline in schools should be incrreased but in no way should it be like the army, it would also help if the idiot teachers, were not so PC (politicaly correct)
and also people have got to remember that discipline should start at home so if we need schools to be militarize then we also need to look at discipline at home, and let the perants take some of the blame
I think we need to increase discipline at just about every school. As part of that, I'd advocate military style reform schools for the trouble makers at regular schools where the punks would have every aspect of their life regulated (since they've demonstrated that they can't control themselves).
Military style discipline is seen as a punishment, or rehab in your eyes? There's the problem, if you make military discipline synonymous with punishment, you make careers in the military look less attractive.
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